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Old 04-19-2026 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Correct. Sadly, the cult won’t understand. They fall for it hook, line, sinker.
What’s a cult nowadays, another empty slogan on a tat? Lovely. Iran has no one to blame but Iran. But if we do somehow manage to muck this up, I agree, same applies to us.
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Old 04-19-2026 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I meant his anti Islamic comments.

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Ever lived in an Islamic theocratic country? Reality is reality, just as Islam is Islam. And it will evolve over time - just as Christianity did.

But if you were serious about Iran, committing war crimes (“bombing the crap” re: bridges and infrastructure) is still illegal.
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Seriously? Cite the law that makes it illegal. We never ratified the 1977 Additional Protocol 1 to the Geneva Convention.

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Old 04-19-2026 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
What’s a cult nowadays, another empty slogan on a tat? Lovely. Iran has no one to blame but Iran. But if we do somehow manage to muck this up, I agree, same applies to us.
The left isn’t without imagination. “The cult”? lol Probably too much to drink or something lol

All these experts in foreign affairs and diplomacy.. Can’t believe they waste their life away on flying airplanes. What a shame.. /s
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Old 04-20-2026 | 02:52 AM
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United Arab Emirates first Gulf state asking for a US bailout. $$$

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-i...risis-11381572
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Old 04-20-2026 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
And this post is not considered an example of partisan politics? Mods, if I wrote the same things about Christianity, would you leave it up?
What are you complaining about? Where is he wrong in his post? Did you get your feelings hurt?
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Old 04-20-2026 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
And this post is not considered an example of partisan politics? Mods, if I wrote the same things about Christianity, would you leave it up?
He did say the same things about Christianity.
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Old 04-20-2026 | 05:05 AM
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[mod input] Enough commenting on the religious ideologies. APC is not the place for that.
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Old 04-20-2026 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
United Arab Emirates first Gulf state asking for a US bailout. $$$

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-i...risis-11381572
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/0...cture-00880064

UAE official: More than 90% of Iran's targets were civilian infrastructure

The minister of state said Iran had hit the United Arab Emirates with over 2,800 missiles and drones since the start of the war.
Fire and plumes of smoke rise after a drone struck a fuel tank near Dubai International Airport in the United Arab Emirates.Fire and plumes of smoke rise after a drone struck a fuel tank near Dubai International Airport in the United Arab Emirates on Monday, March 16. | AP

By JACOB WENDLER04/19/2026 12:24 PM EDT
  • The United Arab Emirates’ minister of state said Sunday the country had been hit with over 2,800 missiles and drones in the first 40 days of the U.S. and Israel’s war with Iran, adding that more than 90% of the targets were civilian infrastructure.
Reem Al Hashimy, the UAE’s minister of state for international cooperation, said during a Sunday morning appearance on ABC’s “This Week” that Iran was seeking to destroy the UAE’s “model of prosperity and tolerance.
“We used our oil wealth to build an economic powerhouse. They used their wealth for nuclear programs that are nefarious, for missiles, drones, proxies, etc.,” she told host Jonathan Karl. “So whereas we tried to become and have become an international, global, responsible player, they are a pariah state. And they wanted to break that model, but they underestimated our resolve.”

The UAE has faced a barrage of attacks from Iran since the U.S. and Israel launched joint attacks on Iran in late February. While the Gulf state — like many of its neighbors — initially opposed the war, it has since shifted its tone as it considers how to avoid the breakout of a larger regional war.

Asked if she agreed with President Donald Trump’s assessment that there had been regime change in Iran, Al Hashimy expressed skepticism that Iran’s leadership had changed meaningfully.

“I know that personalities have changed. You have different characters that are currently in place,” she said “But how has that changed the character of the Revolutionary Guard? That’s yet to see — doesn’t seem very hopeful, though. Right now.”

Trump said Sunday morning that the U.S. would resume peace talks with Iranian officials in Pakistan on Monday after an initial round of negotiations failed to yield meaningful progress. Trump initially told Karl that Vice President JD Vance would not attend the second round of talks, but the White House later walked that back.

The president previously threatened to decimate Iranian civilian infrastructure and eliminate “a whole civilization” if Iran did not agree to open the Strait of Hormuz, sparking sharp recriminations from Democrats and human rights experts. Speaking to Karl on Sunday morning, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Mike Waltz insisted that “all options are on the table.”

Asked if she harbored concerns about Trump’s threats, Al Hashimy said the UAE believes that “maximum pressure” is necessary to move forward, while cautioning against civilian attacks.

“Ultimately, we don’t want to hurt the Iranian people. That’s very important to mention. But at the same time, it’s the Revolutionary Guard that have taken forward a military stance and a posture not against the U.S. and Israel alone, but against the very neighborhood that they operate in through the Gulf states.”
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Old 04-20-2026 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowslung
I would hardly call Libya and Syria examples of success. Last I checked, both are maybe just a hair’s width above failed states. And before anyone accuses me of partisanship, I agree that the Obama administration shares much of the blame for recent policy failures in the region. Seems party affiliation is meaningless when it comes to unindented consequences in that part of the world.
I wouldn't say they're successful as shining examples of modern nations.

Just that the outcome is successful from our realpolitik perspective... they are no longing creating a regional stability problem relative to our economic interests, and we didn't get too heavy handed in the process. Restraint was exercised, although we did monitor both very carefully and engaged in some lower-intensity activities along the way.
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Old 04-20-2026 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
What’s a cult nowadays, another empty slogan on a tat? Lovely. Iran has no one to blame but Iran. But if we do somehow manage to muck this up, I agree, same applies to us.
Iran doesn’t owe you jack. In the same way Russia or China don’t owe you anything either. Wanna know why Russia, Moscow, Putin were never bombed when they started the Ukraine war 3 yrs ago? Simple. They have nukes.


I’d bet Iran goes nuclear inside of 10 yrs and there ain’t a thing you can do about it. Maybe then we can have forced peace much like Pakistan and India have now. I mean, 1998-2026 has been far better for India Pakistan than it was 1947-1998.

I’ve given up on the 2 state solution, the sky fairy arguments over land, etc.

The only thing that holds any power is nukes. And while nuclear proliferation sucks, it’s proven to be the only way to gain respect and not be bombed.

Forced peace is a nuclear armed Iran and nuclear armed Israel. The bombings will stop then. And no, despite what your podcasters and Fox/Newsmax lead you to believe, the Ayotallah and IRG are not interested in losing their power and rule of country and face annihilation by using a nuke first against Israel or us *first*





If you are Iran, the key takeaway from June 2025 and Feb28-present is that you need nukes. Then they’ll be treated like a Russia or China.
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