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Originally Posted by vaksedtothemax
(Post 4028028)
Sucks that California (annd Hawaii) import a ton of their oil from foreign Countries. Also sucks they have roughly 20 less refineries than they did in decades past. Also sad they tax the sh!t out of their gas.
like I said earlier, you take CA out of the West Coast average price, it drops $0.40. I noticed we started carrying extra fuel to CA long before Iran started. $40-100% more? So worse than autopens years… sure pal. Gas at the pump isn’t at Joes record highs, yet you predict 2-5x the price increases his administration created trying to Build Back Better? https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2025/3052/fs20253052.pdf They just won’t allow it to be developed. And their politicians seem to believe that the Second Law of Thermodynamics is more a negotiable suggestion than an actual physical constraint. |
Originally Posted by vaksedtothemax
(Post 4028028)
Sucks that California (annd Hawaii) import a ton of their oil from foreign Countries. Also sucks they have roughly 20 less refineries than they did in decades past. Also sad they tax the sh!t out of their gas.
like I said earlier, you take CA out of the West Coast average price, it drops $0.40. I noticed we started carrying extra fuel to CA long before Iran started. $40-100% more? So worse than autopens years… sure pal. Gas at the pump isn’t at Joes record highs, yet you predict 2-5x the price increases his administration created trying to Build Back Better? |
Originally Posted by Trip7
(Post 4028038)
I strongly believe what's about to happen to California during this energy crisis will mark the end of Gavin Newsome's 2028 Presidential aspirations
It could actually be a problem in the general election. So it's possible that the party will intervene in the primary to ensure Newsom isn't the nominee (maybe a Swalwell file or the like?). There are rumblings on the left that they need some mid-west moderate-ish white guy for 28. Even some on the far left, they're getting tired of losing and consequences... eight years of some combination of Vance/Rubio would be mean at least a couple more SCOTUS picks. |
[QUOTE=rickair7777;4028049]Maybe. The primary voters literally don't care, many of them actually *want* euro-style $20/gal gasoline to encourage everyone to ride bikes and take the bus.
Well that was the idea of energy independence - not just oil - renewables!!! etc etc. I’ve been driving electric since 2019. I don’t do it to be some green Ahole or to save the world. I put solar on my captains house and thought it’s pretty cool I pay for most of my energy needs from the sun. Granted I don’t have any kids to put through college . I paid $32K for solar to power my entire life at home. Payoff 8 years. And I use my full self driving 80-90 percent of the time. It pulls into my garage after a long 4 day. I have a pretty good idea. Park all our nuclear Navy fleet off both coasts with a long extension cord and water hose. Taxpayer power and water problems solved . If there’s a reactor issue or need them to drop bombs somewhere they disconnect and sail away. Israel can pay us back with their water desalination technology as they are the leaders in that. |
[QUOTE=madmax757;4028122]
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4028049)
Maybe. The primary voters literally don't care, many of them actually *want* euro-style $20/gal gasoline to encourage everyone to ride bikes and take the bus.
Well that was the idea of energy independence - not just oil - renewables!!! etc etc. I’ve been driving electric since 2019. I don’t do it to be some green Ahole or to save the world. I put solar on my captains house and thought it’s pretty cool I pay for most of my energy needs from the sun. Granted I don’t have any kids to put through college . I paid $32K for solar to power my entire life at home. Payoff 8 years. And I use my full self driving 80-90 percent of the time. It pulls into my garage after a long 4 day. I have a pretty good idea. Park all our nuclear Navy fleet off both coasts with a long extension cord and water hose. Taxpayer power and water problems solved . If there’s a reactor issue or need them to drop bombs somewhere they disconnect and sail away. Israel can pay us back with their water desalination technology as they are the leaders in that. |
133 pages and you want to complain ?......whiners and malcontents.... of course, that's like, just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Trip7;4028131]
Originally Posted by madmax757
(Post 4028122)
100% agree Nuclear is the long term solution. It's a long cycle solution though. Permitting and construction takes around a decade for each new plant. Same for new Oil Refinery. Also tough to build billion dollar+ infrastructure with critical shortages of diesel for at least a year or 2 "Necessity is the mother of invention" |
[QUOTE=Trip7;4028131]
Originally Posted by madmax757
(Post 4028122)
100% agree Nuclear is the long term solution. It's a long cycle solution though. Permitting and construction takes around a decade for each new plant. Same for new Oil Refinery. Also tough to build billion dollar+ infrastructure with critical shortages of diesel for at least a year or 2 |
Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
(Post 4028132)
133 pages and you want to complain ?......whiners and malcontents.... of course, that's like, just my opinion.
Buck Rogers was a U.S. Air Force pilot who awoke from a 500-year sleep to discover that America had been overrun by Mongol invaders and was almost in ruins. Aided by his space companion Wilma Deering and his mentor, the brilliant scientist Dr. Huer, Buck Rogers defeated the invaders and freed America. |
Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4028189)
Lol, funny what gets deleted 'round here.
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