Climb: Fast, or steep. TW/HW
04-03-2026 | 06:48 PM
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I'll worry about fuel efficiency when I don't spend hours each month getting my pay uneffed, or sit out burning 3500pph ($1200+ an hour) because they didn't want to staff ground side properly amd no wing walkers. (Normal ops, not irop/weather/super early or late arrival)
04-05-2026 | 05:39 PM
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04-05-2026 | 05:46 PM
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~1600 pounds round trip extra was burned. Transcon redeye. Saved four mins each leg. Why are we still talking about this. You're allowed to be wrong lol.
Safe. Comfortable. On time. Efficient. In that order.
If being on time costs 1000 lbs is it worth it in every scenario? AA used to file at FL260-270 just to max your TAS if flight plan was 1 min longer than historical. You push early and have a quick taxi, and arrive 15 mins early, but burn 1000 lbs more? Especially when going to the outstation at 11pm. Stupid. BTW they completely stopped that practice when I sent in some example completed flights and how much gas was saved while still arriving early.
Safe. Comfortable. On time. Efficient. In that order.
If being on time costs 1000 lbs is it worth it in every scenario? AA used to file at FL260-270 just to max your TAS if flight plan was 1 min longer than historical. You push early and have a quick taxi, and arrive 15 mins early, but burn 1000 lbs more? Especially when going to the outstation at 11pm. Stupid. BTW they completely stopped that practice when I sent in some example completed flights and how much gas was saved while still arriving early.
I'm all for flying the cost index and saving fuel......but go home leg is a different Animal, especially when I just spent 3 or 4 days going through this companies ****ed up operations.
04-05-2026 | 06:38 PM
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You sound like a joy to fly with on go home leg or trying to catch a commute, your FOs are probably rolling their eyes as you brag to them how safe and comfortable your flights are as you set the speed like a grandpa. Your time estimate is wrong. Rough estimate each .1 mach is 1 minute per hour, so 5 to 6 minutes on a Transcon. The difference between .76 and .80 is 24 minutes.
I'm all for flying the cost index and saving fuel......but go home leg is a different Animal, especially when I just spent 3 or 4 days going through this companies ****ed up operations.
I'm all for flying the cost index and saving fuel......but go home leg is a different Animal, especially when I just spent 3 or 4 days going through this companies ****ed up operations.
If no one has a reasonable danger of missing a commute I don't go fast, gas is $5/gal. Sometimes being the adult isn't fun, who cares. You're probably going to wait for a gate anyways.
The worst was a CA I was with who taxi'd at 7 knots. Seven. They even knew I had a commute.
04-06-2026 | 09:26 PM
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Does anyone have any objective data on how much (if any) climbing steeper into a tailwind vs flying at a faster forward speed affects fuel use and time to destination? I've tried running a test on MSFS 2020, but the save system doesn't work right.
Scenario: Good tailwinds to destination, climb closer to best L/D till hitting the majority of tailwinds, then spin to max forward speed. Headwinds at cruise, climbs faster at a shallower angle.
Scenario: Good tailwinds to destination, climb closer to best L/D till hitting the majority of tailwinds, then spin to max forward speed. Headwinds at cruise, climbs faster at a shallower angle.
04-08-2026 | 08:44 AM
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