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09-03-2008 | 01:54 PM
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First, where are the outs in the Furlough Mitigation LOA? It is my understanding that the LOA mitigated roughly 3/4's of the total number of possible furloughs.
Secondly, specifically what outs do you see with the Joint Venture Flying LOA that was proposed?
Are CAL pilots better off today without the enhancements of No Furlough, no reduction in BES, no reduction of flying, no reduction of aircraft certificated at 125 seats or greater?
-SLAMM55
Secondly, specifically what outs do you see with the Joint Venture Flying LOA that was proposed?
Are CAL pilots better off today without the enhancements of No Furlough, no reduction in BES, no reduction of flying, no reduction of aircraft certificated at 125 seats or greater?
-SLAMM55
09-03-2008 | 04:00 PM
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This from scabby. Is this the kind of person you want negotiating for you? We really can do better. Our pilot group must become more proactive and engage our LEC and MEC officers more directly to weed this "element" out of the process.
Originally Posted by Slam55
C'mon Arnold, lets be buddies. You might actually learn something!
I could teach you what a resume' is and how to write one. You would gain valuable insight into how your association actually works and all the "secrets!" shhhh.....Don't tell!
C'mon, be my mound of clay. Let me mentor you. Everyone thinks you're beyond hope, but not me. I think you're just a little lump of coal waiting to be polished into a bright shiny diamond.
First of all, calm down before you explode and do something really stupid and end up with another Fitness For Duty Evaluation.
I'm here for you brother. Just reach out to me for the help we all know you're screaming for.
xxxoooxxx,
-SLAMM55
I could teach you what a resume' is and how to write one. You would gain valuable insight into how your association actually works and all the "secrets!" shhhh.....Don't tell!
C'mon, be my mound of clay. Let me mentor you. Everyone thinks you're beyond hope, but not me. I think you're just a little lump of coal waiting to be polished into a bright shiny diamond.
First of all, calm down before you explode and do something really stupid and end up with another Fitness For Duty Evaluation.
I'm here for you brother. Just reach out to me for the help we all know you're screaming for.
xxxoooxxx,
-SLAMM55
09-03-2008 | 09:05 PM
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ding ding ding! we have a winner. much like the furlough mitigation LOA and C'02 there are far too many outs for kellner and his band of fuel hedging idiots to do what they feel.
what did we learn from this though? first class seating and IRO both ways is attainable for us (and should be, look at DAL, they have it, as does AA). the company seems to think they can make it work in up to $170 a barrel jet A. good, pay me. a 2% raise is an insult. come talk to me when it is a 2 digit raise number and the first number is larger than 2. finally, there needs to be some sort of penalty to the company for violating the cba.
what did we learn from this though? first class seating and IRO both ways is attainable for us (and should be, look at DAL, they have it, as does AA). the company seems to think they can make it work in up to $170 a barrel jet A. good, pay me. a 2% raise is an insult. come talk to me when it is a 2 digit raise number and the first number is larger than 2. finally, there needs to be some sort of penalty to the company for violating the cba.
09-04-2008 | 01:34 PM
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From: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
Well the pay needs to be higher but overall if they want to deadhead us it should be worth the credit for it all the time too. As it is it is basically free for the company in that deadhead time does not count to your monthly hours. Believe me there are is a laundry list of things that need to be rectified on C'08. And as far as pay goes, the hourly rate is nice but if you have some actual work rules you can do a lot better in terms of money without having to work more. See DAL and green slips.
09-04-2008 | 01:47 PM
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IRO Both ways
What happens e.g. B764 CO 001 IAH - HNL scheduled for 8:10 is a daytime flight that gets an IRO then the return redeye CO 0072 is scheduled for 7:59 and no IRO. I would prefer an IRO on the redeye, but hey Both ways would be even better. My ALPA pin has a 25 on it and will become 30 years on 10/08 It is getting a little old listening to the all the name calling. If you have never walked a picket line you haven't earned the right....
09-04-2008 | 04:33 PM
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Anyone and everyone should be calling a scab "a scab." My ALPA pin only has a 10 on it. Does my opinion not count yet?
I say any union member in good standing that has not crossed a picket line has earned the right...
09-05-2008 | 05:55 AM
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Name calling
This is a discussion forum. When some members disagree they resort to name calling in place of discussion. Try selling them on the merits of Union membership. Which was first purpose of a strike line ( and preventing the "scabs" from getting to work ). You as a citizen can call anyone whatever you please, however if you are wrong about that name calling it's called libel. Let's get back to the CAL scope discussion.
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