Dutch,

Thanks for the update on your interview. Sounds like a decent place to work. I guess we will all have to sit back and see what happens with them. I hope they do well, as an outsider looking in, it looks like there is plenty of ACMI work out there for everybody who has the capital to get in the business.

SD

 

Spongebob & Dutch, any thought as to posting your interview experiences on aviationinterviews or willflyforfood? Given that neither site has any info on them, it'd be a great starting point.

Thanks for all the great info & informative posts.

 

I tried on Aviation Interviews, but they don't have a link to them on the "submit experience" window.

 

SpongeBob, you been west coast E-2's for your career? And did I read you're going to PAX for the E-2D? I'm ex east coast hummers and know guys in the program at Pax.


Btw...I'm at 360 now.

 

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Seven crews per a/c or seven crew members?

How much of a bond are they going to make you hand over to fly this?

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Some of our 11s do 450. Profitability is not contingent on the amount of hours flown. If you don't agree look at MIA.

6. $2000 a month while in training (This is double what other ACMI outfits pay)

Who are you comparing this to. We pay $1500 per month while in training. No out of pocket expenses for accomodation while in training, plus each MD11 crew receive a rental car while in training.

How is this a benefit? They are complying with federal law. As long as you have had previous health insurance you cannot be barred for a pre-exisiting condition.

Tell me you have this backwards. You get more sick days than vacation?

If this is the good stuff where do you work now?

 

Foggy,
Why you busting this guys b*lls? Not all acmi outfits treat their folks as "well" as Gemini. For an upstart, those are fairly good benefits.
Cheers,
WG
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I think the problem is that with Gemini, Atlas, World, and other established ACMI's trying their best to make things better in the ACMI world (and it's a big uphill battle for all of us now at Gemini), the last thing we need is new ACMI's comming in and "working harder" (to borrow an earlier term) and undercutting hard fought workrules. To brag about 7 pilots per plane isnt' something positive for the industry in my view. I don't know about you, but I don't want to fly heavy's all over the world on minimum rest... all so I can make some investor a few more penny's per share.. In the end, we have to walk a fine line between efficiency, safety, and quality of life. Do you really want to turn the ACMI world into another Flight Options or On-Demand FAR 135 bottom dweller?

I wish the best for the Cargo360 guys, but I certainly hope they consider bringing in ALPA and helping all of us pull in the same direction. There is enough cargo out there for all of us, but undercutting should be left to the managers and marketers, not the pilots who should be focused on the safest possible operations which means sitting at the hotel once in a while when you're body clock is all wacked out!

 

Flynbake,

I was Mugu my whole time in E-2's (from 2001); I spent the early part of my youth flying SH-60B's out of Mayport.

I'm working in Pax as a consultant on a PMA-231 contract doing NCW experimentation with the E-2 -- essentially, demonstrating which new toys are worth pursuing and which aren't. We're bidding on some upcoming AHE work and a ton of other stuff up here. We'll see what we get, but we've got a good group of dudes so we should be fine.....However, pay/benefits are far above any of the flying offers I had.

How do you like 360? I'd have gone there in a heartbeat had the offer come through earlier...as in, when they said it would...Sabredriver is also an E-2/COD guy headed that way.

 

I am not busting this guys balls. I am certainly not bragging on Gemini either. You at World drew a line in the sand on your contract. I wish we had done the same.
Having to pay for your drug, security and background checks is ludicrous, add in the fact they want you to pony up two checks for $8000. Where will this nonsense stop. I think you know as well as I do that bean counters will look at this and say "well if 360 can do this, why not World or Gemini"?
I don't think these are "fairly good benefits". Some of the folks on here seem to be tauting the management, funding and future. It certainly is not reflected in the recruitment package.

 

Ok, co'mon now Fog, we all know you're the big union muscle/enforcer and resident "Ball Buster" at Gemini!

LOL!

I just crack myself up sometimes!