Judge's Decision in UAL v. ALPA
11-24-2008, 11:33 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by skippy
the judge is a complete freaking moron, she got the ruling completely wrong and she cant make me pick up overtime and i will not do it.
she doesnt get it-- someone needs to put her on the stand and ask her how she would feel about taking a 40% pay cut, lose some vacation, work more hours, and if she was abotu to lsoe her job, if she would call in sick to find alternate employment.
shes is an embarassment to the freaking bench and should just retire
11-25-2008, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by milky
Maybe she would choose to not break the rules (whether she agreed with them or not) and would just find a different company for which to work or a different line of work... You always have that right.
Typical cessna airline pilot wannabe. Why didn't I think of this....at 40, just quit and "find a different company" at $32 per hour at the bottom of the list so I can start over and throw some gear for a captain half my age. Thanks, man!!
11-26-2008, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Typical cessna airline pilot wannabe. Why didn't I think of this....at 40, just quit and "find a different company" at $32 per hour at the bottom of the list so I can start over and throw some gear for a captain half my age. Thanks, man!!
11-26-2008, 06:41 AM
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We need to give alpa a chance to work with the obama team and congress to amend organization practices, the nmb, and the rla.
Should that fail, then it is time for alpa leadership to take the fight out of the box, and look at how other oppressed groups have created leverage against corrupt laws and governments. And be willing to suffer the consequences for the prize of greater justice for our efforts and careers.
But, since the precedent is for pilots to say "that is the other guy's problem, I've got mine" I'll never hold my breath.
It is painful to be recently furloughed, and to watch this company destruct.
My family should have me committed for ever leaving a good job to go there...
Should that fail, then it is time for alpa leadership to take the fight out of the box, and look at how other oppressed groups have created leverage against corrupt laws and governments. And be willing to suffer the consequences for the prize of greater justice for our efforts and careers.
But, since the precedent is for pilots to say "that is the other guy's problem, I've got mine" I'll never hold my breath.
It is painful to be recently furloughed, and to watch this company destruct.
My family should have me committed for ever leaving a good job to go there...
03-23-2009, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ihateaviation
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03-23-2009, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
Which is why we need a national ALPA seniority list. Management knows they can treat you like scum because your seniority has you trapped there. If ALPA would create a national seniority list, then you could move to another APLA carrier and not be on the bottom. ALPA has been discussing this, and now is the time for them to act.
03-23-2009, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Typical cessna airline pilot wannabe. Why didn't I think of this....at 40, just quit and "find a different company" at $32 per hour at the bottom of the list so I can start over and throw some gear for a captain half my age. Thanks, man!!
I have a friend that's a jr CA for UAL, he's become a real ego monster since he upgrade to CA. I can't stomach it anymore.
I was a regional CA for a long time before American. If you really want to propagate the myth that "slinging gear, pulling gear" is all FO's do, then in reality you are nothing more than a cessna airline pilot wannabe yourself.
just making a point, not slamming you.
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03-23-2009, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
Which is why we need a national ALPA seniority list. Management knows they can treat you like scum because your seniority has you trapped there. If ALPA would create a national seniority list, then you could move to another APLA carrier and not be on the bottom. ALPA has been discussing this, and now is the time for them to act.
Never going to happen. Pilots are less unified then ever.
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