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Old 11-29-2008 | 04:29 AM
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Milky,

I do not think flying newer jets is easier than flying 727s. I have flown 727s. In the past 15 years alone I have seen an incredible change in the training philosophy of primary training and airline training. Advances in technology aid our job in flying with better precision. It does not make flying easier for the masses, one still has to think.

Technology has aided the job of lawyers and doctors, (not comparing myself to them) however does it make their job easier, to the point that anyone can do it? Or is it another tool that allows them to work "better", "smarter".

Besides flying the 767 I also do work as an IP and TCE in aircraft with modern technology. Guess what, they make the same mistakes as the ones did in the 727. In fact they are on the hook for more (as there is more to know with an advanced avionics suite.)

Instead of dumbing down the profession, try to raise it. We as professional pilots are now required to know more to operate these advanced aircraft. The fact that fewer accidents have occurred is a testament to our training and advancement in SOPs.

Out of all the professions out there I am still shocked ours is the ONLY one that still has people trying to put a limit on what we "should" make.

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P.S. I own a $2000+ Mac computer. I would not purchase a cheap $600 computer. You get what you pay for.
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Old 11-29-2008 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AAflyer
Milky,

I do not think flying newer jets is easier than flying 727s. I have flown 727s. In the past 15 years alone I have seen an incredible change in the training philosophy of primary training and airline training. Advances in technology aid our job in flying with better precision. It does not make flying easier for the masses, one still has to think.

Technology has aided the job of lawyers and doctors, (not comparing myself to them) however does it make their job easier, to the point that anyone can do it? Or is it another tool that allows them to work "better", "smarter".

Besides flying the 767 I also do work as an IP and TCE in aircraft with modern technology. Guess what, they make the same mistakes as the ones did in the 727. In fact they are on the hook for more (as there is more to know with an advanced avionics suite.)

Instead of dumbing down the profession, try to raise it. We as professional pilots are now required to know more to operate these advanced aircraft. The fact that fewer accidents have occurred is a testament to our training and advancement in SOPs.

Out of all the professions out there I am still shocked ours is the ONLY one that still has people trying to put a limit on what we "should" make.

AAflyer

P.S. I own a $2000+ Mac computer. I would not purchase a cheap $600 computer. You get what you pay for.

Very well put.
If you lower your expectations it is easier not to be disappointed, but remember one thing. You are a professional. If you demand the respect, it will be given to you. Furthermore dress the part.
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Old 11-29-2008 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Very well put.
If you lower your expectations it is easier not to be disappointed, but remember one thing. You are a professional. If you demand the respect, it will be given to you. Furthermore dress the part.
I agree 100%. Well said ACL.
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Old 11-29-2008 | 07:17 AM
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But premium pay is $84 Point taken. We're getting there...very slowly
Its still better then what airways is making from day one!
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Old 11-29-2008 | 11:15 AM
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sorry kinda got in on the thread late but it seems like lots of places we go on the 9 are kind of mainline routes... not really sure how the big iron guys feel about it but i like the cities at least. it's better than overnighting in BFE.
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Old 11-29-2008 | 11:49 AM
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XJKid... never fails to flamebait!
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Old 11-29-2008 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
XJKid... never fails to flamebait!
what..? everything i said was factual. i said the mainline guys probably don't like it but i don't know bc all i've flown is the 9. it sucks but it's the truth.
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Old 11-29-2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by milky
And to say you have no recourse is an idiotic statement. For now, this country is still free! You can go out and get a job or start a business doing ANYTHING YOU WANT!
BIFF: Hey Squirt! Get off the swingset!
BILLY: No, I was here first.
BIFF: OK, you asked for it! *punch*
BILLY: Owww! Teacher, Biff punched me!
TEACHER: Biff, did you punch Billy again?
BIFF: Yes, but it's kind of his fault. If he didn't want to be punched, he should've left the playground.

Seriously, the "If you dislike it around here so much why don't you quit?" argument is old and busted. I was talking about legal recourse over the abrogation of a contract.
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Old 11-29-2008 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by XJkid
what..? everything i said was factual. i said the mainline guys probably don't like it but i don't know bc all i've flown is the 9. it sucks but it's the truth.
Definition of "wannabe"
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Old 11-29-2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by XJkid
what..? everything i said was factual. i said the mainline guys probably don't like it but i don't know bc all i've flown is the 9. it sucks but it's the truth.

It's not a 9.... repeat after me.... it's not a 9. Nowhere is it officially referenced as a 9. There is DC-9.... and CRJ-900. Technically, it's a CL600-2D24. Not to be a nerd but it's NOT a 9. Learn your airplane brah.
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