March AA recall class
01-30-2009 | 06:01 AM
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73,
One of the things that I don't like about UPS is the amount of resentment some of the pilot group has about working here. It can be argued till the cow's come home that UPS is one of the better jobs out there..opinions vary. Put in other terms, I don't like working somewhere where people hate coming to work.
You mentioned only meeting a few bitter ex TWA-ers. My opinion differs, the TWA-ers on the property won't be the bitter ones, the trouble makers will be those that have been raking leaves for the last 5-7 years that went from narrow body Capt, or senior widebody F/O to the unemployment line. I know it is not possible but try to put yourself in their shoes, and not make the comment of "be lucky your on the AA seniority list, albeit furloughed".
I know your opinion differs, and that's fine. I'm not here to throw stones.
I hear many NAAtives are heralding the battle cry of self-help, strike, etc. My question is, during self help, who is going to blink first, I get the impression that AMR is supposed to blink first, what if they do not.
Just curious, not trying to incite a riot.
FF
01-30-2009 | 06:25 AM
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73,
One of the things that I don't like about UPS is the amount of resentment some of the pilot group has about working here. It can be argued till the cow's come home that UPS is one of the better jobs out there..opinions vary. Put in other terms, I don't like working somewhere where people hate coming to work.
You mentioned only meeting a few bitter ex TWA-ers. My opinion differs, the TWA-ers on the property won't be the bitter ones, the trouble makers will be those that have been raking leaves for the last 5-7 years that went from narrow body Capt, or senior widebody F/O to the unemployment line. I know it is not possible but try to put yourself in their shoes, and not make the comment of "be lucky your on the AA seniority list, albeit furloughed".
I know your opinion differs, and that's fine. I'm not here to throw stones.
I hear many NAAtives are heralding the battle cry of self-help, strike, etc. My question is, during self help, who is going to blink first, I get the impression that AMR is supposed to blink first, what if they do not.
Just curious, not trying to incite a riot.
FF
One of the things that I don't like about UPS is the amount of resentment some of the pilot group has about working here. It can be argued till the cow's come home that UPS is one of the better jobs out there..opinions vary. Put in other terms, I don't like working somewhere where people hate coming to work.
You mentioned only meeting a few bitter ex TWA-ers. My opinion differs, the TWA-ers on the property won't be the bitter ones, the trouble makers will be those that have been raking leaves for the last 5-7 years that went from narrow body Capt, or senior widebody F/O to the unemployment line. I know it is not possible but try to put yourself in their shoes, and not make the comment of "be lucky your on the AA seniority list, albeit furloughed".
I know your opinion differs, and that's fine. I'm not here to throw stones.
I hear many NAAtives are heralding the battle cry of self-help, strike, etc. My question is, during self help, who is going to blink first, I get the impression that AMR is supposed to blink first, what if they do not.
Just curious, not trying to incite a riot.
FF
With INternational Business Ventures, read Cabotage. The continued assault on SCOPE and every other aspect of our career if we do not stand up, it truly will become a job. Opinions may vary.
I am seeing more individuals on the recall list posting on the APA furlough forum that are anxious to get back and do not seem filled with the resentment you speak of. I am sure there are some. I found a couple pilots from college and one from my second employer that are wanting to come-back. One told me he was more ****ed off at Osama than anything else when I apologized for his treatment.
AAflyer
P.S. Thanks for insight on UPS, I truly had no idea.
01-30-2009 | 06:35 AM
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I'll never get to a general strike. Some targeted self-help almost certainly, but AA could not withstand a general strike of any duration. Even the present management can't fail to see that.
There will be a contract, but not before the very last second, because that's what management will drive it to. Hopefully, the BODs and shareholders will finally see that this so-called "top" management team has squandered the last bit of employee loyalty and goodwill and is not suitable for the long term good of the company.
There will be a contract, but not before the very last second, because that's what management will drive it to. Hopefully, the BODs and shareholders will finally see that this so-called "top" management team has squandered the last bit of employee loyalty and goodwill and is not suitable for the long term good of the company.
01-30-2009 | 01:53 PM
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I'll never get to a general strike. Some targeted self-help almost certainly, but AA could not withstand a general strike of any duration. Even the present management can't fail to see that.
There will be a contract, but not before the very last second, because that's what management will drive it to. Hopefully, the BODs and shareholders will finally see that this so-called "top" management team has squandered the last bit of employee loyalty and goodwill and is not suitable for the long term good of the company.
There will be a contract, but not before the very last second, because that's what management will drive it to. Hopefully, the BODs and shareholders will finally see that this so-called "top" management team has squandered the last bit of employee loyalty and goodwill and is not suitable for the long term good of the company.
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