Jetblue pilots stay non-union
12-19-2010 | 11:27 AM
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I am not a JB pilot. I left a LCC 3 years ago for corporate. I agree w/ you!
12-19-2010 | 01:22 PM
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I don't love ALPA but the only thing worse than having ALPA as your union is not having ALPA as your union.
12-19-2010 | 07:17 PM
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Ok, let's leave the union thing aside for now. Why don't you have the kind of comp and benefits the union carriers have?
Think your job is safer than that of pilots at DAL/SWA/CAL because they're union and you're not?
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01-02-2011 | 08:02 PM
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From: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
....and you think you can't be stapled as an ALPA carrier?
Check with the TWA folks who got the royal shaft by "THE" pilot's union, ALPA. And, it was not because they were in BK either. ALPA literally sold them out!
jetBlue pilots made the absolute correct decision. Good for you. It appears that you have the ability to think for yourselves. I salute you!
JD
Check with the TWA folks who got the royal shaft by "THE" pilot's union, ALPA. And, it was not because they were in BK either. ALPA literally sold them out!
jetBlue pilots made the absolute correct decision. Good for you. It appears that you have the ability to think for yourselves. I salute you!
JD
TWA was shafted by APA the pilots union at American. Not ALPA. Of course you would have known that if you were actually an airline pilot.
01-03-2011 | 04:35 AM
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01-03-2011 | 09:04 PM
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The TWA pilots on the mec had nothing to do with the decision? What were the choices on the table? What were the options given to the mec when AA/TWA was merged? Have you asked the mec?
Just wondering?
It was choose between a crap sandwich and a crap sandwich with more crap.
TWA was @#$%ed by $&*% managment. They had months if not weeks left of survival.
Managment still has to put gas in the plane, but you can choose to fly or be a passenger with your career.
Just wondering?
It was choose between a crap sandwich and a crap sandwich with more crap.
TWA was @#$%ed by $&*% managment. They had months if not weeks left of survival.
Managment still has to put gas in the plane, but you can choose to fly or be a passenger with your career.
01-04-2011 | 03:12 PM
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From: Bus FO for now..but #2 in the Turkmenistan Airlines hiring pool...#1 is a goat
I'll bet you BlueBus is either a UAL or USAir furloughed pilot who blames his furlough on ALPA. Its hard to overcome a case of sour grapes like that. What he fails to appreciate, apparently, is that COMPANIES furlough. No union has ever furloughed a pilot.
Trying to get guys like BlueBus to understand that basic fact is like trying to teach a pig to sing. Its a waste of your time and it irritates the pig.
Trying to get guys like BlueBus to understand that basic fact is like trying to teach a pig to sing. Its a waste of your time and it irritates the pig.
You are wrong. Sometimes it is alpa that furloughs. It was alpa and paul whitford, with chuck pierce at his side, that caused over 1000 additional furloughs by negotiating super high hour lines and S&#T work rules to save his unsaveable A-fund. He then signed away big RJs with one pen stroke. Then alpa shoved age 65 up our a$$, against the wide majority of alpa pilots, without the courtasy of a reach around. Adding 5ish years to current furloughs without so much as a thought because that was prater's agenda item. Current furloughs would be largely over were it not for alpa, thus making them alpa furloughs. Yea, was it the company that sent out the furlough notices? Yes. Are a large number the result of alpa actions. YES! Thus making them all alpa's.
Do I think JB and everyone else should be unionized. HELL YES.....but as much good as alpa has done in the past, they have done more harm this decade. The reason alpa continues to get away with this sh%t is people that don't put the proper blame at their feet. It is management's job to f&$k me over for an extra nickle. It is alpa's job to protect my career. Score the win for management last decade. Hopefully we can pull our alpa head out of our a$$ and make this decade better for the profession.
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