Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-25-2014 | 05:29 PM
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From: 767er Captain
Not long ago (2 years ago?) the Vol 1 referred to the PA in question with a suggested example. I like that the current version instructs to say the line they give you. I rarely hear it limited to that when I'm in back. That being said, a little extra to help the FAs know how much time they still have (if they even care) doesn't hurt IMO. But when I hear an elaborate version I can't help but think "I get enough PAs, do you really need to be piling on with more at this point?"
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02-25-2014 | 05:41 PM
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From: Light Chop
yall are smart. here is the rule from U.S. FAR 121.542/135.100, "Flight Crewmember Duties"
a) No certificate holder shall require, nor may any flight crewmember perform, any duties during a critical phase of flight except those duties required for the safe operation of the aircraft. Duties such as company required calls made for such nonsafety related purposes as ordering galley supplies and confirming passenger connections, announcements made to passengers promoting the air carrier or pointing out sights of interest, and filling out company payroll and related records are not required for the safe operation of the aircraft.
b) No flight crewmember may engage in, nor may any pilot in command permit, any activity during a critical phase of flight which could distract any flight crewmember from the performance of his or her duties or which could interfere in any way with the proper conduct of those duties. Activities such as eating meals, engaging in nonessential conversations within the cockpit and nonessential communications between the cabin and cockpit crews, and reading publications not related to the proper conduct of the flight are not required for the safe operation of the aircraft.
c) For the purposes of this section, critical phases of flight includes all ground operations involving taxi, takeoff and landing, and all other flight operations conducted below 10,000 feet, except cruise flight.
Note: Taxi is defined as "movement of an airplane under its own power on the surface of an airport".
a) No certificate holder shall require, nor may any flight crewmember perform, any duties during a critical phase of flight except those duties required for the safe operation of the aircraft. Duties such as company required calls made for such nonsafety related purposes as ordering galley supplies and confirming passenger connections, announcements made to passengers promoting the air carrier or pointing out sights of interest, and filling out company payroll and related records are not required for the safe operation of the aircraft.
b) No flight crewmember may engage in, nor may any pilot in command permit, any activity during a critical phase of flight which could distract any flight crewmember from the performance of his or her duties or which could interfere in any way with the proper conduct of those duties. Activities such as eating meals, engaging in nonessential conversations within the cockpit and nonessential communications between the cabin and cockpit crews, and reading publications not related to the proper conduct of the flight are not required for the safe operation of the aircraft.
c) For the purposes of this section, critical phases of flight includes all ground operations involving taxi, takeoff and landing, and all other flight operations conducted below 10,000 feet, except cruise flight.
Note: Taxi is defined as "movement of an airplane under its own power on the surface of an airport".
02-25-2014 | 05:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Again, we don't have SOPA/SMAC at Delta.
Note the date and time. tsquare and DAL 88 Driver actually agree on something! 
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Again, we don't have SOPA/SMAC at Delta.
02-25-2014 | 05:49 PM
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To add some info to the discussion:
At a former 121 carrier in a past life of mine we indeed had the faa going after some guys for deviating from the script in the fom on the takeoff pa while moving. Violating sterile cockpit.
So yes, they (the faa) have done it.
Looked at one of our VOL I and it clearly states to give the following pa with the script in quotes.
Seems to me a chief line check pilot has nothing to say regarding faa action. If you get the wrong faa type riding in front or back, that is what matters.
02-25-2014 | 05:59 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
02-25-2014 | 06:04 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
That WAS my resume !
02-25-2014 | 06:08 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
"My story? Oh, well, I started college at 19, after 7 years and four colleges I graduated. I didn't know what to do with myself so I worked at Blockbuster. One day I was watching Top Gun and decided I wanted to be that guy. So I took out some huge loans on my 26% AMC Theatre credit card and got my pilots licenses. I was a certified flight instructor instrument and flew right seat on a Piper Chieftain when they had to do maintenance flights. But lucky for me a senior fourth floor type owed my mom, don't know why he did but she said he just did, and thus I got to come straight here to Delta to the ER. It was nice skipping the whole regional and military thing. Why do you ask?"
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02-25-2014 | 06:16 PM
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02-25-2014 | 06:27 PM
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From: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Not my cup of tea either, but that was the inference I got from a couple of speakers recently. Apparently some folks think the Captains are not standard ... go figure, they're plenty standard enough IMHO.
Of course, when I've been asked and expressed that opinion it was clear that "fine, great really" was not the answer being sought.
Of course, when I've been asked and expressed that opinion it was clear that "fine, great really" was not the answer being sought.
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