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Old 06-11-2010 | 06:28 PM
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The European aeronautical group EADS is looking to team up with Embraer to launch a new regional jet, a market that Bombardier dominates.

"We're very interested to create an alliance with Embraer", said EADS director, Louis Gallois during the Berlin Air Show.

"We know that the duopoly (in the medium-range jet market) is coming to an end", explained Louis Gallois. "China with the C919 and Canada with the CSeries are direct competitors of Boeing and EADS".

In reaction to this new competition, EADS could offer to ATR to join forces with ATR to launch a new regional plane.

Les Echos indicated that EADS would like to launch a 90 seats regional propeller. Such a plane would be a direct competitor to the Q-400 and CRJ900.

The newspaper adds that Embraer particularly wishes to establish a longer term relationship with Airbus, an EADS company, regarding the A320 replacement.

Louis Gallois also stated that he expected an intense competition with Boeing regarding the US tanker bid, and that 20 A380 should be delivered by the end of the year.

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So Airbus+Embraer+ATR vs Bombardier vs Boeing. Hmm...
Old 06-11-2010 | 06:31 PM
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Makes sense to get risk sharing partners in this seat segment.

Boeing is probably going to go ahead with a 73NG replacement, but the small jet makers are a few years ahead of the usual suspects. The products from Boeing and Airbus need to be more than just slightly better than these jets.
Old 06-11-2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Odd, the NYC CPO has said that no activity like that is going on because there is not a "process in place yet" but that there is going to be meetings in ATL next week to get the system more defined and they'll know more "soon".
I asked for an excellent pilot & friend of mine and was told that the some CPO interviews had been scheduled, but have been canceled. Forgot to Bid nailed it:
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Really people should be seeking out Newk for an influential recommendation.
Using your internal e-mail address adds to whatever weighting formula they have and should help a Candidate in what sounds like a very objective scoring process.
Old 06-11-2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Makes sense to get risk sharing partners in this seat segment.

Boeing is probably going to go ahead with a 73NG replacement, but the small jet makers are a few years ahead of the usual suspects. The products from Boeing and Airbus need to be more than just slightly better than these jets.
I agree.

But there it is again, a 90 seat turboprop. CAL sees the Dash 8-400Q as a scope threat. I wouldn't mind flying a 90 seat turboprop fwiw, but I think an EMB-190/195 with turboprop engines would be fun. But I'm kind of strange fellow or I get bored easily.
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Old 06-11-2010 | 06:51 PM
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From my personal observations:That that project an entitled attitude about them in the interview process generally do not fare well.
Old 06-11-2010 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Ad Lib

Anyone else bugged by the "I don't have to interview, I am entitled to a Delta job" those lucky enough to have been flying for a NWA subsidiary have?
If there is a pro and con to flow throughs, that ^^^^ is absolutely the #1 con for the mainline carrier and pilot group. Absolutely 100% and I thought that sitting at #1100 of 1100 when I was at Coex when it came to our flow through to CAL.

Now, to be fair, flow throughs are full of cons for most of the seniority list of any regional pilot outside of a regional the size of CPZ. There is stagnation, squatters, inability to apply, flow downs, etc.

The upsides are there too to be fair, thus, pro's and con's.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
From my personal observations:That that project an entitled attitude about them in the interview process generally do not fare well.
I could only imagine if you have a "this is my right" attitude then you probably have a "why do I need to study?" or "MD-88? Why do I have to fly the MD-88, I deserve the 767ER."

I'm sure training is a blast, sarcasm, with that attitude.
Old 06-11-2010 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ad Lib

Anyone else bugged by the "I don't have to interview, I am entitled to a Delta job" those lucky enough to have been flying for a NWA subsidiary have?



Originally Posted by forgot to bid
If there is a pro and con to flow throughs, that ^^^^ is absolutely the #1 con for the mainline carrier and pilot group. Absolutely 100% and I thought that sitting at #1100 of 1100 when I was at Coex when it came to our flow through to CAL.

Now, to be fair, flow throughs are full of cons for most of the seniority list of any regional pilot outside of a regional the size of CPZ. There is stagnation, squatters, inability to apply, flow downs, etc.

The upsides are there too to be fair, thus, pro's and con's.

I have not really run across any guys with that attitute - but I am sure that they are out there. I guess if they interviewed when the flow through was already in place, and at that time they met all the DAL requirements (4 year degree, flight time mins etc) they probably viewed their DCI interview as their DAL interview and thats probably fair enough.
Now with that said, a little humility and gratitude goes a long way.

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Old 06-11-2010 | 07:16 PM
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Good luck to the Spirit pilots tonight and beyond!!

Also..I read on the "Other" forum that the first class is on Aug 8th. Anyone?
Old 06-11-2010 | 07:24 PM
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Beer;
They are telling the bypass guys something like that!
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