Sullenberger Article
#22
"I do think that airline pilots today are little more than programmable humans who conduct a flight by following a highly scripted and choreographed series of rote memorized procedures and actions. They are manual driven flow chart following automatons who carry out the direction and decisions of others. Dispatch, maintenance control, Boeing engineers and ATC run the show. The pilots are spring loaded to react to situations in a pre-determined manner and if they run off the script will contact others for further direction. The mantra is "Do not think just do". Follow the procedure. Thinking gets pilots into trouble"
Skyhigh 11/19/2008
Skyhigh 11/19/2008

This industry is soooo cruel. Soooooo cruel!
Why quit and then stick around a forum trying to kill dead flies? Makes no sense. Serves no purpose. Either sit it out like CA Sully did (you can always hope to be part of a lucky chain of events) or get out and become a Doctor.
None of the pilots I ever met would recommend flying for the airlines to their kids. It has taken them years and years to get to where they are.
Lots of hard work, and always the realization that it can be over for good tomorrow. The whole thing is nothing but a sand castle. I wonder how it is then still possible to recruit cheap labor and get so many people to spend all this good money for all this? Could someone explain? Why are the academies cranking out pilots like chocolate chips if a long timer like Sully makes $108K? Are you kidding? $108K, for this job?
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None of the pilots I ever met would recommend flying for the airlines to their kids. It has taken them years and years to get to where they are.
Lots of hard work, and always the realization that it can be over for good tomorrow. The whole thing is nothing but a sand castle. I wonder how it is then still possible to recruit cheap labor and get so many people to spend all this good money for all this? Could someone explain? Why are the academies cranking out pilots like chocolate chips if a long timer like Sully makes $108K? Are you kidding? $108K, for this job?

That and flying Cessna's is alot of fun, flying a jet must be even better.
#26
Amen, I think we are forunate to have had the opportunity to fly the old grizzly airplanes like these. It really makes me laugh when somebody says that their ERJ or CRJ is a piece of junk or an underperformer. Put them in a DC-3 or CV-340 with jugs shooting out of the cowling and climbing at -300 fpm. At that point, only 2 things can save you. Quick instincts and knowing how to fly the plane, or some extra wind off the leg of Chuck Norris after a jumping roundhouse kick to provide that extra lift to make a suitable field.
#27
It's simple they all think if you study/work hard you will end up at FedEx/UPS/Southwest, never work and make bank. What they fail to realize is the aforementioned folks are statistical anomalies in the pilot career.
That and flying Cessna's is alot of fun, flying a jet must be even better.
That and flying Cessna's is alot of fun, flying a jet must be even better.

It's those who run after empty promises, go overboard on debt and work for nothing just to keep it that way?
Wow, I'm still in awe about the 108K Sully supposedly makes. I though with his experience and long term commitment he would have hit at least 180-200K if not more. $108K is an insult!
I know Mechanics who top that. And they don't have a chance to kill 155 people everytime they screw something up.
#28
What kind of a man sits back.... oh well 
This industry is soooo cruel. Soooooo cruel!
Why quit and then stick around a forum trying to kill dead flies? Makes no sense. Serves no purpose. Either sit it out like CA Sully did (you can always hope to be part of a lucky chain of events) or get out and become a Doctor.
None of the pilots I ever met would recommend flying for the airlines to their kids. It has taken them years and years to get to where they are.
Lots of hard work, and always the realization that it can be over for good tomorrow. The whole thing is nothing but a sand castle. I wonder how it is then still possible to recruit cheap labor and get so many people to spend all this good money for all this? Could someone explain? Why are the academies cranking out pilots like chocolate chips if a long timer like Sully makes $108K? Are you kidding? $108K, for this job?


This industry is soooo cruel. Soooooo cruel!
Why quit and then stick around a forum trying to kill dead flies? Makes no sense. Serves no purpose. Either sit it out like CA Sully did (you can always hope to be part of a lucky chain of events) or get out and become a Doctor.
None of the pilots I ever met would recommend flying for the airlines to their kids. It has taken them years and years to get to where they are.
Lots of hard work, and always the realization that it can be over for good tomorrow. The whole thing is nothing but a sand castle. I wonder how it is then still possible to recruit cheap labor and get so many people to spend all this good money for all this? Could someone explain? Why are the academies cranking out pilots like chocolate chips if a long timer like Sully makes $108K? Are you kidding? $108K, for this job?

) and flight attendants (well that has gotten much easier to look past considering American hiring practices) to decide where I would apply. And it took me years to get the interview here, and in the interim did what I had to do and diversified as needed so as not to get into debt. It wasn't brain surgery, just common sense if I managed it. So Sky for example (I think) went into real estate, which by most accounts has tanked as bad if not worse than aviation. Will he quit that soon too, and frequent ****ed Off Ex-Realtor.com telling the tens of thousands of out-of-work realtors and brokers to park their running E55 AMG in the garage and go to sleep? Some people are pre-disposed to give up (and some in an apparently angry toddler fashion) and then spend enormous amounts of time trying to convince themselves that it was somebody else's fault under the guise of being the wise noble sage.At least have the dignity to admit it to yourself and go save would-be realtors from delusions of success.
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Man you guys are right. Sullenberger should keep his whining toddler tantrums to himself and quit the profession already. Some are quitters and complainers while others are born to take the abuse. Why go onto a national format and complain? Who cares if his family has sacrificed? Why should anyone care what he thinks of the future prospects in the industry? There are sacrifices to be made in every profession. This career just isn't cut out for everyone.
Most will not make to the left seat of a MD-11 at FedEx. Everyone knows that. For some reason he didn't make it to the big time. Boo Hoo. He must not have tried very hard or made some kind of mistake. Why cry about it now? If he loved the profession he would keep his trap shut and be thankful that the company provides him with an A320 to fly.
Love it or leave it man.
It is what it is.
Skyhigh
Most will not make to the left seat of a MD-11 at FedEx. Everyone knows that. For some reason he didn't make it to the big time. Boo Hoo. He must not have tried very hard or made some kind of mistake. Why cry about it now? If he loved the profession he would keep his trap shut and be thankful that the company provides him with an A320 to fly.
Love it or leave it man.
It is what it is. Skyhigh
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