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04-26-2009, 10:03 AM
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04-26-2009, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cactusone
I'm not sure you understand whats going on so here's what it's "about"
Here's my seven points:
1. USAPA is suing west pilots (18) for big dollars each for doing thing such as posting on a web board and calling there phone number a bunch of times. It was thrown out with prejudiced and they appealed!
2. USAPA is trying to get several hundred pilots fired for not paying dues even thou they were not even accepted for membership at the time.
3. Submitted to the company a new seniority list with the east pilots at the top of coarse.
4. Will not extend furlough insurance benefits to west furloughed.
5. Willfully delaying contract negotiations so as not to implement the nic arb.
6. Had to be forced in the presence of a federal judge to file a fair grievance for out of seniority furloughs (west of course)
7. Won't allow a west pilot to run for office, so it must be threatened by the Dept of Labor to rerun election and have west pilot on ballot.
I could go on and on...
These people in charge of this union are low life's...period.
Here's my seven points:
1. USAPA is suing west pilots (18) for big dollars each for doing thing such as posting on a web board and calling there phone number a bunch of times. It was thrown out with prejudiced and they appealed!
2. USAPA is trying to get several hundred pilots fired for not paying dues even thou they were not even accepted for membership at the time.
3. Submitted to the company a new seniority list with the east pilots at the top of coarse.
4. Will not extend furlough insurance benefits to west furloughed.
5. Willfully delaying contract negotiations so as not to implement the nic arb.
6. Had to be forced in the presence of a federal judge to file a fair grievance for out of seniority furloughs (west of course)
7. Won't allow a west pilot to run for office, so it must be threatened by the Dept of Labor to rerun election and have west pilot on ballot.
I could go on and on...
These people in charge of this union are low life's...period.
05-01-2009, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cactiboss
America West pilots version below;
"Piloting an airplane to a safe landing does not make one a hero. In this case after hearing his testimony it simply makes him lucky. The actions taken before, during or after the event are what make someone a hero.
After watching the actions of this US Airways pilot on the stand today I do not consider his actions heroic. Listening to Sulley’s USAPA prepared talking points I was offended and sickened.
I have avoided the jumpseat war myself. I have never denied anyone the jumpseat. I do not plan on denying the jumpseat with one exception. If he plans on returning. After hearing Sulley today, that man is not welcome on any flight deck that I have responsibility for. This is not an east thing, this is a disgust thing. He either volunteered or allowed usapa to use him in an undignified manner.
The plaintiffs attorney respectfully but forcefully took him apart on the stand. Brengle tried objecting to every question. After about the fifth objection. The judge told Brengle to sit down and stop interrupting. As soon as the cross exam was complete. No redirect, Sulley left the court room in a blur with all of the defense attorneys in trail.
This was after the morning witness where Seham became very shrill and stormed back to his table. And Brengle screwing himself into the overhead in front of the jury when one of the plaintiffs calmly countered every question Brengle could throw at him.
If this was the big moment usapa was hoping for, it fell flat. The jury did not sit up when he entered. I don’t know that they realized who he was at first. But after the cross, I don’t believe that it helped the case in the least."
Above was an actual America West pilot quote.
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