Midex/RAH/Frontier
07-29-2009 | 06:11 AM
#31
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Unfortunatly, this situation is not a "perfect merger". In fact it's not a merger at all. RAH is buying Frontier out of bankruptcy. So most likely we'll see a percentage based seniority intigration where RAH pilots make out better than they otherwise would have.
Of course this whole discussion is silly if SouthWest comes in at the last minute and buys Frontier. But if that happens, that might not be a good thing for Lynx or Frontier pilots.
Good luck to everyone.
07-29-2009 | 06:19 AM
#32
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I am a RAH pilot and I am anything but excited.
Hockeypilot, I admire your passion. Truly. Just not your venom. While the RAH group is not exempt from the 5% rule, you have no basis to justify the sweeping and all inclusive statements you make such as that above. It detracts from your credibility.
Hockeypilot, I admire your passion. Truly. Just not your venom. While the RAH group is not exempt from the 5% rule, you have no basis to justify the sweeping and all inclusive statements you make such as that above. It detracts from your credibility.
07-29-2009 | 07:03 AM
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aewanabe, I admire your passion. Truly. Just not your venom. While the RAH group is not exempt from the 5% rule, you have no basis to justify the sweeping and all inclusive statements you make such as that above. It detracts from your credibility.
07-29-2009 | 07:29 AM
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That's exactly how its going to go. RAH will replace the 'Bus with the E-190 as the leases come due. F9 guys will be furloughed. Until the SLI is finalized, every furloughed F9 pilot will go BEHIND the RAH furloughs and the Midwest furloughs.
That's precedent.
And there will be NO DoH. Its not a feature of Allegheny/Mohawk, the current law applicable to diverse union or non-union pilot SLIs.
07-29-2009 | 08:07 AM
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That's exactly how its going to go. RAH will replace the 'Bus with the E-190 as the leases come due. F9 guys will be furloughed. Until the SLI is finalized, every furloughed F9 pilot will go BEHIND the RAH furloughs and the Midwest furloughs.
That's precedent.
And there will be NO DoH. Its not a feature of Allegheny/Mohawk, the current law applicable to diverse union or non-union pilot SLIs.
That's precedent.
And there will be NO DoH. Its not a feature of Allegheny/Mohawk, the current law applicable to diverse union or non-union pilot SLIs.
And that's really too bad about DOH; that is how it should go, even though most, if not all of the F9 and YX guys would go above me. I would like to see DOH and fenced by paint and have made that suggestion to the guys working the integration, but I don't see it happening.
07-29-2009 | 10:56 AM
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I fear you are correct with the replacements. The only hope is an improved contract. Although there is very little incentive on the part of MGT to expedite the Section 6 process, perhaps there will be more pressure from the integrated group in combination with the new leadership at the 747, provided of course that the group is willing to work together. That is a big if. Time will tell
And that's really too bad about DOH; that is how it should go, even though most, if not all of the F9 and YX guys would go above me. I would like to see DOH and fenced by paint and have made that suggestion to the guys working the integration, but I don't see it happening.
And that's really too bad about DOH; that is how it should go, even though most, if not all of the F9 and YX guys would go above me. I would like to see DOH and fenced by paint and have made that suggestion to the guys working the integration, but I don't see it happening.
07-29-2009 | 11:15 AM
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And that's really too bad about DOH; that is how it should go, even though most, if not all of the F9 and YX guys would go above me. I would like to see DOH and fenced by paint and have made that suggestion to the guys working the integration, but I don't see it happening.
07-29-2009 | 12:43 PM
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No it wouldn't. Hard to happen when no YX pilots will go there. Even in a ratio integration most pilots will losing between 6-14 years of seniority plus the nice 60% pay cut. They will be losing more years of seniority than the pilots they are merging with have years flying. Nevermind the fact that they are back at a commuter being treated like trash.
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07-29-2009 | 01:48 PM
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Bingo... the Republic/Teamsters way of doing business.
07-29-2009 | 01:57 PM
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By "our contract" do you mean the RAH contract? Sorry, serious question. I don't know who you work for. Regardless, do you have the cite? Chapter and verse, please.
