How is JetBlue?
09-02-2009 | 04:05 PM
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How about this?
I have a freind at NWA, who said, a while back, obviously, that while NWA was OK, I should go somewhere better like DAL.
Then, a DAL friend told me I should not apply there, as it was terrible, and I should go somewhere good like CAL.
One of my friends at CAL told me he wishes he had stayed at NetJets.
One of my friends at NetJets is leaving for another flying job.
Another guy said Allegiant was awful.
Another that Cathay was terrible.
On the web I have read numerous guys saying that Emirates is horrible, and then a bunch of Qatar guys saying that their airline is terrible, and Emirates is way better.
So, where do we go to find a great "Career" place again?
I have a freind at NWA, who said, a while back, obviously, that while NWA was OK, I should go somewhere better like DAL.
Then, a DAL friend told me I should not apply there, as it was terrible, and I should go somewhere good like CAL.
One of my friends at CAL told me he wishes he had stayed at NetJets.
One of my friends at NetJets is leaving for another flying job.
Another guy said Allegiant was awful.
Another that Cathay was terrible.
On the web I have read numerous guys saying that Emirates is horrible, and then a bunch of Qatar guys saying that their airline is terrible, and Emirates is way better.
So, where do we go to find a great "Career" place again?
Good post! I recently became fortunate to have a job. Not just a pilot job, but a paycheck every 2 weeks. It took me 2 months after being displaced to put it into perspective...
I took a lot of criticism to come to American Eagle. AE was my very LAST choice. I had 4-5 other preferred choices: Pinnacle, Republic, Skywest, Horizon, Mesaba, Comair...
If I went to any of those listed (exp SKW) I would be furloughed!
What helped me put it into perspective was jumpseating on a UAL A320 to EWR and having the FO tell his CA that he was hired in May 1999 and was getting furloughed for the 2nd time. I don't have it bad.
As bad as my QOL is at Eagle, and it is horrible as I got displaced having to move out of my condo in ORD and have my $5000 furniture parked in a $140/mo storage unit and stay in a crashpad in Kew Gardens, I am happy to still be able to say "V1, Rotate!" Too many people at Eagle are concerned about "Upgrade Time".
09-03-2009 | 10:22 AM
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Cliff,
Good post! I recently became fortunate to have a job. Not just a pilot job, but a paycheck every 2 weeks. It took me 2 months after being displaced to put it into perspective...
I took a lot of criticism to come to American Eagle. AE was my very LAST choice. I had 4-5 other preferred choices: Pinnacle, Republic, Skywest, Horizon, Mesaba, Comair...
If I went to any of those listed (exp SKW) I would be furloughed!
What helped me put it into perspective was jumpseating on a UAL A320 to EWR and having the FO tell his CA that he was hired in May 1999 and was getting furloughed for the 2nd time. I don't have it bad.
As bad as my QOL is at Eagle, and it is horrible as I got displaced having to move out of my condo in ORD and have my $5000 furniture parked in a $140/mo storage unit and stay in a crashpad in Kew Gardens, I am happy to still be able to say "V1, Rotate!" Too many people at Eagle are concerned about "Upgrade Time".
Good post! I recently became fortunate to have a job. Not just a pilot job, but a paycheck every 2 weeks. It took me 2 months after being displaced to put it into perspective...
I took a lot of criticism to come to American Eagle. AE was my very LAST choice. I had 4-5 other preferred choices: Pinnacle, Republic, Skywest, Horizon, Mesaba, Comair...
If I went to any of those listed (exp SKW) I would be furloughed!
What helped me put it into perspective was jumpseating on a UAL A320 to EWR and having the FO tell his CA that he was hired in May 1999 and was getting furloughed for the 2nd time. I don't have it bad.
As bad as my QOL is at Eagle, and it is horrible as I got displaced having to move out of my condo in ORD and have my $5000 furniture parked in a $140/mo storage unit and stay in a crashpad in Kew Gardens, I am happy to still be able to say "V1, Rotate!" Too many people at Eagle are concerned about "Upgrade Time".
Your airline job is only as good as your pay and benefits!
Anyone who loves flying for flying can simply go and rent a plane any day of the week. I love flying. But, I see little value in anything other than what I get to take home to my family.
If you just wanna have fun, there's a multitude of ways to find it if your income allows!
JJ
09-04-2009 | 01:01 AM
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Hi!
"If your income allows", is correct.
With regards to aviation, most people in the world, and even the US, do not have enough income to enjoy aviation.
Even the majority of people worldwide do not have enough income to even enjoy a simulation of flying, either through their computer or through a TV videogame. I would guess that most Americans could afford some kind of simulated flying. We are quite lucky, here in the US.
cliff
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"If your income allows", is correct.
With regards to aviation, most people in the world, and even the US, do not have enough income to enjoy aviation.
Even the majority of people worldwide do not have enough income to even enjoy a simulation of flying, either through their computer or through a TV videogame. I would guess that most Americans could afford some kind of simulated flying. We are quite lucky, here in the US.
cliff
NBO
09-04-2009 | 08:37 AM
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Hi!
"If your income allows", is correct.
With regards to aviation, most people in the world, and even the US, do not have enough income to enjoy aviation.
Even the majority of people worldwide do not have enough income to even enjoy a simulation of flying, either through their computer or through a TV videogame. I would guess that most Americans could afford some kind of simulated flying. We are quite lucky, here in the US.
cliff
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"If your income allows", is correct.
With regards to aviation, most people in the world, and even the US, do not have enough income to enjoy aviation.
Even the majority of people worldwide do not have enough income to even enjoy a simulation of flying, either through their computer or through a TV videogame. I would guess that most Americans could afford some kind of simulated flying. We are quite lucky, here in the US.
cliff
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If you are flying for $$ and insisting on receiving $$, you can go take up many fun hobbies, as it should be.
Yes, we are lucky for many reasons in the US but don't kid yourself, pilot pay at the US regionals is nothing to shout about among pilots overseas.
I wish you luck in your career. Try convincing yourself that you are "entitled" rather than "lucky". There will always be a CEO who'll be happy to praise you rather than pay you!
JJ
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09-05-2009 | 11:51 AM
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If you were to Search 'JetBlue' on these forums, you dont come up with much results. Why so quiet?
It seems to me that JetBlue is where it is at! ... For JetBlue pilots, any of you guys unhappy? You all seem overall satisfied.
JetBlue seems to be healthy. Any rumor of hiring within the next 6 months, or indications of short staffed?
What was JetBlue's flight time hiring minimums when they were hiring?
It seems to me that JetBlue is where it is at! ... For JetBlue pilots, any of you guys unhappy? You all seem overall satisfied.
JetBlue seems to be healthy. Any rumor of hiring within the next 6 months, or indications of short staffed?
What was JetBlue's flight time hiring minimums when they were hiring?
I spent a year in BOS and the RSV was not that bad. I usually got about 3-6 days of LCR (14callout) and sat at home. The rest of SCR was spent crashpading it. I averaged about 35hrs mo. The life in F,nJFK isn't as good. They work more.
I changed bases in May. Drive to work. Spend all LCR and SCR days at home and still work about 20-35 hrs a mo. I don't miss the commute as I did it for 9 years from NYC to LAX and MDW to IAH.
The $$ is comming, and so is the retro check. I would say that the work rules are going to get better too.
The union failed for a multitude of reasons but I will contribute it to poor coordination within the organizing party.
My take is we've got some problems... who doesn't? We have some poopypants guys here and the 10%ers will never be happy. As far as a workplace goes, this one is great. Again it can always be better. Your QOL is what you make of it and are able to work around. My wife works and takes some of the burden off my back.
I'd come to work here again given the chance. Hind sight being 20/20 had I gone to either of the other two carriers I was hired at in the same time frame, I would be a govt. employee sucking off the taxpayers teet. Not where I want to be.
09-07-2009 | 05:00 PM
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Another place I think they'd do well is STL. That place is a ghost town when I go there, since AMR dismantled TWA. Probably quite a few ppl that have an axe to grind against AMR
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