Because we don't want management to start a bidding war to the lower pilot pay.

In this economy, BB/TPG are going to squeeze anything they can to make money.. Pilots pay is a expense, period.

We are college educated, highly trained, and have to work away from home. We deserve a good living wage

BB needs to understand he will not make pilots pay a profit center. Passengers may need to pay $1-2 dollars more on each leg for experienced pilots and I think they will do it happily.

 

Airdale says


And, if pilot pay is such a small piece of the pie (which I agree with you on btw), then why were you and other Midwest pilots pointing fingers at the Republic pilots for undercutting your wages and stealing your jobs?

If pilot pay really didn't matter, as you say, than wasn't your argument null?[/quote]

Pilot pay matters to me, a pilot, trying to earn a respectable living!

Do I care about CASM and my part of it? Not really.
I can't control any of those things. Macro wise.
Any excess not put in your paycheck goes to the bottom line. Like to buy other airlines.

What do you say when a first year MEH Fo made $4 more /hr. than a scaled out RAH pilot flying essentially the same equip.?

Again, I think we all realize that it is not the pilots fault. At least I do.
You have been coerced into a corner by your shoot from the hip mgmt.
Unfortunately for you, you are just a pawn in the grand scheme.
You should decide to remove yourself from the situation or resolve to fight to correct the imbalance that has developed. I will guess you will choose to fight, and in that case you will need a lot of tenacity and patience because you have such a long way to go.

Please just dont expect the people who fed their families with a job that closely resembles the job that you currently perform to sit back and blow bubbles and sunshine up your a$$. Especially when every possible comment or statement has to be refuted by one of the members of your group.

I will agree that some of the statements made by persons on this board are over the top and uncalled for. I make no apologies for those.

 

I think all of this is a mute point anyway. I don't think Bedford really cares about staying in MKE and growing Midwest. I think even the name will be gone soon. The certificate, routes and gates are his now and why encourage the drama and try and rebuild the tarnished Midwest brand when you have a great national product in Frontier that many I know REALLY love. Either that or merge all of his new stepchildren and soon to be Republic Airways will be born.

 

As common as that error is, why haven't people learned that it's "moot", not "mute"?

 

Because nobody takes the time to learn english. Any of these ring a bell?

Choose/Chose
There/Their/They're
Lose/Loose
To/Too/Two

The list is infinite...

 

witch one to use when, that is the question....

 

Thats not what I want. Just people to quit pointing the finger at the pilot group. Thats all.


And FWIW, I've flown in Midwest colors once, on a 170. 99.9% of the flying I do at my base is Airways.

 

Which/witch

That's awesome - I guess Halloween IS near

 

I do find it interesting all the debate. SWAPA pres just sent out a letter talking about Furloughs in Jan 2011 if things don't pick up. All the old guys said we should support the age change because it was the right thing to do. I wonder if the guys still flying over 60 will retire so some young guys don't get furloughed because it is the right thing to do. Tough times for all and good luck.

 

I thought SWA announced expansion in DEN, STL and other sites. Or is that just reallocation of fleet?