Republic may drop Midwest name
03-05-2010, 04:51 PM
#111
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Ummm you flew here after J4J, which you credited as a sellout, and the arrival of the 170. As well as with the contract you now bash. Didn't leave until you were hired at mainline. Good for you but don't act like if you haven't been hired at DAL you would have quit. You'd still be sitting here flying your heart out.
03-05-2010, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MD80
I agree with you.
I was told first hand by the Midwest VP of Flight Operations that Republic never planned to pay the $119 per hour. It was only a carrot. I don't know where he got this idea.
The number I remember was that the Midwest pilots were offered a top pay of $87 per hour for Captains on E170, E190 and B717. The pay matched the Republic E170 scale (within one dlloar) but only to 12 years of seniority. They didn't include the Republics 13-20 year pay scales. That was the 40% different between the Midwest "take it or leave it" and Republic $119 per hour top pay.
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/a.../republic.html
This VP told me, face to face, that Midwest could never agree to paying Midwest Captains $119 per hour. My guess is very few Republic pilots will ever see that rate.
I was told first hand by the Midwest VP of Flight Operations that Republic never planned to pay the $119 per hour. It was only a carrot. I don't know where he got this idea.
The number I remember was that the Midwest pilots were offered a top pay of $87 per hour for Captains on E170, E190 and B717. The pay matched the Republic E170 scale (within one dlloar) but only to 12 years of seniority. They didn't include the Republics 13-20 year pay scales. That was the 40% different between the Midwest "take it or leave it" and Republic $119 per hour top pay.
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/a.../republic.html
This VP told me, face to face, that Midwest could never agree to paying Midwest Captains $119 per hour. My guess is very few Republic pilots will ever see that rate.
If you follow the original posts it was to refute the idea that YX pilots would be better off somewhere else. If you are mid 50 or older and you get left seat at RAH with longevity pay, I would venture that since would probably never be Capt. at Delta,AirTran, JetBlu etc financially one would be well ahead at RAH.
It doesn't matter a tinkers dam if the 119/hr pay scale was only a carrot. If you have 20 years and in the 190 and its in the SLI deal, that's your pay rate. It is 24 dollars an hour better than a 190 at USAir.
03-05-2010, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Rat
I know what I would tell the crew on behalf of the REAL Midwest pilots. It would hurt your feelings though.
03-05-2010, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Beagle Pilot
It appears one reason for the demise of "the real" Midwest Airlines was a distinct lack of maturity among the employees.
03-05-2010, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
This morning, I rode on a "Frontier" flight, operated by Republic, with a Midex paint job on it. Awesome.
03-05-2010, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Make sure you thank the crew.
Originally Posted by thevagabond
You're welcome.
Anything else you're reading into is your own misconception.
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