Child directed traffic at JFK
03-03-2010 | 08:21 AM
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ATC... So easy, even a kid can do it. There go the salaries!!!!!
Just joking. I could NEVER handle the job, stress, workload that those guys handle. I wouldn't last a day.
And for the record, the guys/gals at JFK are TOP NOTCH.
Just joking. I could NEVER handle the job, stress, workload that those guys handle. I wouldn't last a day.
And for the record, the guys/gals at JFK are TOP NOTCH.
03-03-2010 | 08:28 AM
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Really??? Well, maybe. But so as to not throw too many rocks, but it is that whole airspace that is an abortion. For example: Why not allow the NAT bound aircraft that can takeoff on 31R do so, and instead of doing a 270 degree turn about the ARP, turn right climb to 5000 feet, accelerate to 320 and go buster for the entry point? Oh, it's because LGA rules the whole airspace, and we are holding to some antiquated speed limit that Europe got rid of years ago. As long as the NY airspace remains the way it is, these people might be what some perceive as good, but I think they can do better.
03-03-2010 | 08:42 AM
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Really??? Well, maybe. But so as to not throw too many rocks, but it is that whole airspace that is an abortion. For example: Why not allow the NAT bound aircraft that can takeoff on 31R do so, and instead of doing a 270 degree turn about the ARP, turn right climb to 5000 feet, accelerate to 320 and go buster for the entry point? Oh, it's because LGA rules the whole airspace, and we are holding to some antiquated speed limit that Europe got rid of years ago. As long as the NY airspace remains the way it is, these people might be what some perceive as good, but I think they can do better.
03-03-2010 | 08:53 AM
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03-03-2010 | 09:02 AM
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The name of this story should be "Child repeated after his father in JFK tower" Directed traffic? I think thats horribly misleading. I highly doubt that this kid was manning the scopes, punching the buttons on the console, and waving those little paper strips (if they still have them) around. The worst offense here is him keying the mic. All he did was repeat after his pops who no doubt was plugged in right next to him and was actually "directing traffic". Whats sad is he might lose his job because of the alarmist in this country. I would venture to say that at no point was safety compromised in this little adventure.
03-03-2010 | 09:06 AM
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Really??? Well, maybe. But so as to not throw too many rocks, but it is that whole airspace that is an abortion. For example: Why not allow the NAT bound aircraft that can takeoff on 31R do so, and instead of doing a 270 degree turn about the ARP, turn right climb to 5000 feet, accelerate to 320 and go buster for the entry point? Oh, it's because LGA rules the whole airspace, and we are holding to some antiquated speed limit that Europe got rid of years ago. As long as the NY airspace remains the way it is, these people might be what some perceive as good, but I think they can do better.
03-03-2010 | 09:11 AM
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Wow
It's amazing that on "take your kid to work" day, a responsible adult took his responsible child to work! We are professionals here, right? And as professionals we make our own judgments as to how we are going to carry out our flights in a SAFE and profitable manner. And if we have a little fun in our day, good for you!
By listening to the tape, the child and father were BOTH mic'ed up and i'm pretty sure ole Pops knows how to pull the plug on his kid (or an intern) if things went south. I'm sorry to see that this man might lose his job because our lackluster regulatory agency doesn't trust his judgement. Bull$hit if you ask me.
just my .02
By listening to the tape, the child and father were BOTH mic'ed up and i'm pretty sure ole Pops knows how to pull the plug on his kid (or an intern) if things went south. I'm sorry to see that this man might lose his job because our lackluster regulatory agency doesn't trust his judgement. Bull$hit if you ask me.
just my .02
03-03-2010 | 09:13 AM
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Definitely another example of the extreme wussification of this country. "We should sequester all the children at home, all the time, in front of the TV, don't ever expose them to anything!"
Heck, I remember getting into ATC towers and trans-Atlantic airliner cockpits when I was a kid, in the 80's and 90's! En-route!
So Dad shows Son that he too, if he studies hard at school, can do cool things too, that a controller, a pilot, etc etc isn't some superhuman with extraterrestrial abilities.
This reaction is like closing the beaches in the summer because ONE shark sometimes takes ONE person swimming in the sharks' house. Meanwhile, almost 40,000 people a year die in automobile accidents, in the US!
Heck, I remember getting into ATC towers and trans-Atlantic airliner cockpits when I was a kid, in the 80's and 90's! En-route!
So Dad shows Son that he too, if he studies hard at school, can do cool things too, that a controller, a pilot, etc etc isn't some superhuman with extraterrestrial abilities.
This reaction is like closing the beaches in the summer because ONE shark sometimes takes ONE person swimming in the sharks' house. Meanwhile, almost 40,000 people a year die in automobile accidents, in the US!
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