Child directed traffic at JFK
03-03-2010 | 06:10 PM
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The reason this Aeroflot A310 lost control is due to the ailerons being disengaged from the autopilot without any alarm sounding off once the yoke was held in a turn for more than 30 seconds. The aircraft wanted to maintain altitude which led it to loosing control, and to top it off once the captain regained his seat he kept fighting the stall system, all the crew had to have done in that situation to recover was to let go of the systems and the plane would have recovered itself. The crew were never trained nor were they made aware of this feature from Airbus or Aeroflot. It was a freak accident that happened and can't be blamed for the kid or the father for screwing up.
When I was 5 years old I once sat left seat in a DC-10 and got to push some buttons and even got to turn the heading selector to turn the plane, I still remember the Captain watching my every move and instructed me on how to do it. I think this controller made a safe fun decision to let his kid experience his fathers job, hell I think this man should be rewarded for actually involving his kid into his life and letting his kid understand what "Daddy has to go to work" really means...
When I was 5 years old I once sat left seat in a DC-10 and got to push some buttons and even got to turn the heading selector to turn the plane, I still remember the Captain watching my every move and instructed me on how to do it. I think this controller made a safe fun decision to let his kid experience his fathers job, hell I think this man should be rewarded for actually involving his kid into his life and letting his kid understand what "Daddy has to go to work" really means...
03-03-2010 | 06:50 PM
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Poor SA on the controller's part; he had to know it would get out and then the idiot cable news clowns would start having coronaries. That being said, holy crow can our freaking country lighten up a bit? This guy did something that probably gave his kid a big kick, is involved in his son's life, and damned sure didn't actually compromise safety... now his livelihood is jeopardized. Meanwhile, the same news companies that are all a-twitter over this will break from the story to show us more of the "Jersey Shore" cast. I love our country but really hate it too sometimes, ya know?
03-03-2010 | 07:20 PM
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Everyone is an expert huh? I am so SICK of the media/flying public thinking they know what is the right way to operate aircraft in this country. As soon as they see something that doesn’t jive with their belief then all hell breaks loose. They trust that we are trained to fly their planes, yet at first instance, feel well within their right to tell us how to dot our i’s and cross our t’s. This over-reactive society is out of hand.
03-03-2010 | 07:30 PM
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I think this guy should be fired too... YouTube - Vancouver Air Traffic Controller makes Marriage Proposal live on Air - A MUST HEAR
You know what, I think that anyone messing around on frequency should be fired. No more thank yous, no more nothing. All Business all the time...
[............] I smiled when I heard this because let's face it, we all need to smile, laugh, or enjoy some part of our day. I would assume that all of the pilots in that sound bite were entertained and enjoyed it.
This act was 100% harmless, was supervised and we all know that. If you don't know that, then you should rot in h#[L with the rest of the Americans that have sticks too far up their @$$es to have any fun, smile, or enjoy life at any point.
If someone has any address, like stated earlier, that we can write to, anyone, I would love to write something to help this guy in any way.
I know this is a nasty post. And if it offended anyone, then good.
Bring on Re-education!
You know what, I think that anyone messing around on frequency should be fired. No more thank yous, no more nothing. All Business all the time...
[............] I smiled when I heard this because let's face it, we all need to smile, laugh, or enjoy some part of our day. I would assume that all of the pilots in that sound bite were entertained and enjoyed it.
This act was 100% harmless, was supervised and we all know that. If you don't know that, then you should rot in h#[L with the rest of the Americans that have sticks too far up their @$$es to have any fun, smile, or enjoy life at any point.
If someone has any address, like stated earlier, that we can write to, anyone, I would love to write something to help this guy in any way.
I know this is a nasty post. And if it offended anyone, then good.
Bring on Re-education!
Last edited by USMCFLYR; 03-03-2010 at 08:17 PM.
03-03-2010 | 08:19 PM
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Guess that professional all the time would exclude all the SuperBowl, World Series, Stanley Cup and Kentucly Derby information being passed around too.
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03-04-2010 | 05:19 AM
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OK!!..... enough about the kid controller. What will become of the Jet Blue crew that accepted a take off clearance from what was obviously a kid and not even stating "ok, as long as your daddy says its ok", or something to that effect. Accepting a T/O clearance... from a kid.... at JFK?? Cute I know, but really??
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03-04-2010 | 07:35 AM
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OK!!..... enough about the kid controller. What will become of the Jet Blue crew that accepted a take off clearance from what was obviously a kid and not even stating "ok, as long as your daddy says its ok", or something to that effect. Accepting a T/O clearance... from a kid.... at JFK?? Cute I know, but really??
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Doesn't the American with Disability Act mean anything to you you ageaphobe.
03-04-2010 | 07:37 AM
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OK!!..... enough about the kid controller. What will become of the Jet Blue crew that accepted a take off clearance from what was obviously a kid and not even stating "ok, as long as your daddy says its ok", or something to that effect. Accepting a T/O clearance... from a kid.... at JFK?? Cute I know, but really??
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And if, after accepting said clearance, promptly ran into a fuel truck crossing the runway? Or botched up a V1 cut? Or hit birds, had both engines quit, and landed in the Hudson (either successfully, or worse, not so much so)?
Or declared "may day, may day, may day", but during the time of the transmission, a 10 year old was blocking out the radio issuing "supervised" ATC control instructions?
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