Friend's,

When, was the last time you ever heard an, "Airline Pilot," as a Hero?
If, you are an "Airline Pilot."
You have, seriously, more experience today than any, American, astronaut has ever had.
American, astronaut's- have "PENSIONS."
That's, right.
"PENSIONS."

Do we really need, a "History Channel." Lesson, on how, America was, "Won?"
WWI
WW2,

Pilot's, eyeball's, friend's.

Now, sit back, on your behind. And, wonder, "where did my pension, go."

PS. My, (42 year old, government, fire-fighting, neighbor, will retire, next week, at $95,000.00 a year, for the rest of his life)?

Who's, the Hero, here friends?

AMERICA, get's their ass in trouble? WHO DO, THEY CALL?

 

Are you kidding?
Wing's, "Liberty University."
Kind of like a "credit-card."
Spend, $100,000.00 of your parents money. (charge on unpaid balance.)
WE WILL PAY YOU, $1,000 a month. (to send you anywhere).
AND HOPE YOU ENJOY YOUR LIFE. SLAVE.
Hope you never want a social, life, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE ONE.
Your,
"OUR *****."

 

There is your answer.

 

It would be great for everyone. They have set a precedence by agreeing to fly the 800 for the same pay. I am sure they will use that when they open a joint contract. On the other hand if they get that payrate I would bet SWA dumps the aircraft fast.

 

Sailing,

My recollection is a bit different than yours regarding the Bill Brown era.

(This is all from memory, so I could be somewhat in error.)

Back in 1972 (or so) Dalpa negotiated a "Minimum Benefit Guarantee" as part of the retirement benefit calculation. This was tied to the performance of the S&P 500. It really wasn't much of an issue for 20 years or so, but back in the mid-nineties the S&P 500 index was booming.

Delta was (understandably) concerned about the effect of this clause on how much they were going to have to pay out in retirement benefits for the pilots eligible for the Minimum Benefit Guarantee.

IIRC part of the '96 contract was a freezing of the Minimum Benefit Guarantee. The company did offer an early retirement program, and you are correct about the added five years.

However the reality was that many pilots simply didn't retire early. Due to manning requirements and training limitations there were quite a number of pilots who took the so called early retirement who literally retired on their normal retirement date.

So they got the incentives, but didn't leave early. To me that had zero benefit for the junior pilots at the time, and I think that's why the perception exists that the senior pilots were rewarded.

Again, this is all from memory (disclaimer).

 

Plus its much easier to foster class warfare, than to address the tough questions and problems.

 

You mean like the DPA guys who have put absolutely zero information other than "ALPA sux" in the public domain?

 

Interesting article about UAL/CAL picketing

Swelblog / Swelbar on Airlines - Articles - The United and Continental Pilots Engage In MISInformationalPicketing

 

Interesting article with some good points and some not so good points. I would, however, recommend considering the source before putting too much stock in this article.

"Prior to accepting his research position at MIT, Swelbar spent 25 years in the consulting world with a focus on airline labor cost restructuring, regulatory issues governing air transport, communication strategy and support, and air service development on behalf of airports and communities."

 

Sorry for bringing this up again, but I just saw a commercial on TV that reminded me about your comments regarding the bankers not allowing pay increases for us.

I thought this was pretty funny. Are these the guys who are actually running Delta Air Lines?!

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