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Old 12-21-2010 | 09:13 AM
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Heyas,

It continues to amaze me that for an organization that has DONE NOTHING, zero, nada, {empty}, it has both the lovers and the haters frothing at the mouth.

For the lovers, I can see that you have some angst, and anything new is worth talking about. But with that said, you seem to be in love with a chimera, an apparition, a vapor...

And then there are the haters. Here is a mythical enterprise, that so far has nothing to show but a website and some talk, and yet here people are balling themselves up into hysterics and wrapping themselves in the ALPA flag as if the organization is the raison d'etre, rather than the good of the DAL pilots.

Rather than play on emotions, if either side has a pitch to make, then make it. Unemotional and with the facts. Let the pilots decide which makes better sense. If either side has a better mousetrap, then perhaps that will become self-evident.

But I doubt it will play out that way.

Nu
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Old 12-21-2010 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I just got my 20 year pin... into the drawer it goes..
Be careful friend, that pin may hurt when you put your drawers on.
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Old 12-21-2010 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by reddog25
Be careful friend, that pin may hurt when you put your drawers on.
It wouldn't be the first time alpa has bit me in the a$$..

Thanks for the softball...
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Old 12-21-2010 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
How do we know reroute is not female? Wasn't he/she just talking about panties a couple of posts earlier? I'm just sayin'...
And you've never talked about panties....

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Old 12-21-2010 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas,

It continues to amaze me that for an organization that has DONE NOTHING, zero, nada, {empty}, it has both the lovers and the haters frothing at the mouth.

For the lovers, I can see that you have some angst, and anything new is worth talking about. But with that said, you seem to be in love with a chimera, an apparition, a vapor...

And then there are the haters. Here is a mythical enterprise, that so far has nothing to show but a website and some talk, and yet here people are balling themselves up into hysterics and wrapping themselves in the ALPA flag as if the organization is the raison d'etre, rather than the good of the DAL pilots.

Rather than play on emotions, if either side has a pitch to make, then make it. Unemotional and with the facts. Let the pilots decide which makes better sense. If either side has a better mousetrap, then perhaps that will become self-evident.

But I doubt it will play out that way.

Nu
The reality of this is that DPA will help to raise some awareness on the part of the average line pilot. Most want to go thru their lives/careers just like Tommy Lee Jones describes in MIB. They don't want to be bothered with the minutae... Those will not get involved nor really care one way or the other, because 99% of the guys go straight to Chapter 3 of any TA we get, and see if that is acceptable to their current lot.. There will be some.. mostly forum radicals that will raise a little hell, and perhaps get the union moving in an insignificant way that will be beneficial to the group rather than sitting back on their laurels and doing the same old thing. Then.. when the contract enters Section 6.. DPA will go away because God forbid we have any real debate because "disunity.. disharmony" will harm the group. So we will once again fall right into lockstep with the MEC and whatever national wants.. and vote whatever they send us into being.. no con papers.. little if any debate... there ya go. As someones avatar says.. Blather.. Wince... Repeat. Nothing will change.
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Old 12-21-2010 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Ahs's ah fah losahs.

Yankees Suck. Go Sox.
After this last month,all you Red Sux fans can't complain about the Yankees buying their way to the top.What are you all going to whine about now?
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Old 12-21-2010 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tim123
After this last month,all you Red Sux fans can't complain about the Yankees buying their way to the top.What are you all going to whine about now?
Seems as though they are going to be whining about having to go down to Philadelphia to play in October every year for the next 3-5 years.....


Damn. My White Sox don't have a chance.....
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Old 12-21-2010 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Anyone notice that Reroute and Karnak are never here at the same time? I'm just "connecting the dots"
Ever notice that you and I are never here at the same time. Always just enough time to log off and log back in. Start connecting those dots. I'm not saying.....just saying.
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Old 12-21-2010 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Rather than play on emotions, if either side has a pitch to make, then make it. Unemotional and with the facts. Let the pilots decide which makes better sense.
Yup. Like my second post said on the subject:

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Those arguments have been made for years now and ALPA has only gotten more deaf. It's all about counting the cards now. Arguments are over.

Carl
It's all about whether DPA has 51% or not.

Carl
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Old 12-21-2010 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
.....It's all about whether DPA has 51% or not.

Carl
Or rather WHEN they have 51%, if I may correct you.
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