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Old 03-15-2011 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
That's kind of a silly question, but OK.. I'll play... Where would DAL have been if they hadn't been able to shed our retirement plans? How much more would all of that cost the bottom line..
No way to know for sure. Where would DAL have been if fuel prices hadn't spiked through the roof in 2008? What if we had done a better job at hedging fuel then? There are all kinds of variables that can affect the "bottom line." My point is that a happy, motivated work force has a VERY significant effect on the bottom line too. Unfortunately, that effect cannot usually be quantified. SWA understands this, it has been one of the real keys to their success over the years, and I highly doubt they would just throw it away. But you never know, Ed Bastian could become the next CEO at SWA and all bets are off!
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Old 03-15-2011 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
No way to know for sure. Where would DAL have been if fuel prices hadn't spiked through the roof in 2008? What if we had done a better job at hedging fuel then? There are all kinds of variables that can affect the "bottom line." My point is that a happy, motivated work force has a VERY significant effect on the bottom line too. Unfortunately, that effect cannot usually be quantified. SWA understands this, it has been one of the real keys to their success over the years, and I highly doubt they would just throw it away. But you never know, Ed Bastian could become the next CEO at SWA and all bets are off!
Well that was kind of my point. You're a smart guy.. you know that SWA has done so well because they are a one trick pony. One jet.. one "service"... one destination (domestic only). Now they are running out of profitable routes with which to grow organically.. and they have to look outside the safety of Herb's culture.. and.. they have to start thinking about international. In case you haven't noticed, you cannot really fly to Asia or Europe in a 737. Point is, they have limits in what they can do in their present state. Their world has shrunk.. exponential growth that they have enjoyed in years past has come to an end. So.... now.. they are gonna see more and more competition in their backyard, and that is gonna take from their monopoly. Somebody in another thread was talking about fare being the bottom line.. guess what.. SWA ain't the cheapest anymore. They gotta compete.. and employees are an easy target when the going gets rough... it's a matter of time.
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Old 03-30-2011 | 06:43 PM
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I just found this. Hilarious...and some good points!

YouTube - DPA Pilot Lounge Chat Part 1
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Old 03-31-2011 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spakler
I just found this. Hilarious...and some good points!

YouTube - DPA Pilot Lounge Chat Part 1
This is going to get confusing.

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Old 03-31-2011 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
This is going to get confusing.

Carl
Why? One's a golfer who doesn't know anything but has lots of opinions, and the other is a doofus who was happy when gophers were running the show. ;-) Seems clear to me.
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Old 03-31-2011 | 07:26 PM
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PRAISE THE LORD, IT'S REALLY HERE!!!
March 31, 2011
Crewmember Identity Verification Program
In his November 12 Chairman’s Letter, following the announcement that the TSA had instituted revised Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) security screening measures, then Delta MEC Chairman Captain Lee Moak wrote “The rational solution to pilot security screening is CrewPASS. . . CrewPASS implementation will be my first order of business as ALPA president.”
On March 21, ALPA President Captain Lee Moak and Air Transport Association President Nicholas E. Calio sent a joint letter to TSA Administrator John Pistole announcing that “The Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA) and the Air Transport Association (ATA) have reached agreement on a plan for implementing an enhanced crew screening system that is designed to meet applicable portions of TSA guidelines . . .”
Late today, Captain Moak notified ALPA’s Board of Directors that ALPA and the ATA have “received approval from the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) for nationwide implementation of a crewmember screening system.” The jointly sponsored program will tie airline employee databases together in a seamless way, enable TSA security officers to positively verify identity and employment status of crewmembers, and get pilots out of passenger screening lines.
“I look forward to the full national deployment of a known crewmember program at the earliest possible date,” said ALPA President Captain Lee Moak. “As professional airline pilots, we have been through employment checks; we have been fingerprinted; we have been through criminal background checks. We are the most highly screened employees in the aviation industry, and we are on the frontlines of our nation’s aviation security effort every day, empowered to help protect it. This enhanced process recognizes those facts by providing pilots with a technologically modern and highly efficient alternative to the traditional security screening process.”
The program is operated jointly by ALPA and ATA with TSA oversight. ALPA originally promoted CrewPASS to the TSA in 2007. CrewPASS has been in use at three East Coast airports for several years, but for a variety of reasons, never became a reality at the rest of our nations airports. The new system leverages current technology to provide an effective yet cost efficient alternative screening solution.
What Happens Now?
The crewmember identity verification program can be implemented relatively easily and quickly because it relies only on an internet connection to a secure web server and a browser-equipped device (e.g. SmartPhone, iPad, laptop, etc) at TSA designated crewmember access points.
Over the next several weeks, the ATA will establish a web service using two isolated, secure servers to route crewmember data between airline employee databases and browser-equipped devices. Testing is then projected to begin at the following airports: Chicago O’Hare, Phoenix Sky Harbor, Boston Logan, Miami International, Minneapolis-St. Paul, Dulles International, and Seattle-Tacoma for a period of approximately 90 days.
Any pilot whose employer connects to the system and is currently capable of using CASS will be able to gain access through test checkpoints. ALPA, ATA and the TSA will work together to resolve any problems that may be identified during the test period.
Following the test, ATA member airlines and other TSA-regulated airlines will begin implementing the program at airports throughout the country.
Because the new program uses existing technology and databases, implementation costs should be minimal, and it is likely that in many if not all cases, participating airlines will assume these costs.
The crewmember identity verification program will quickly provide professional pilots with the alternate screening program we have been anticipating for many years. Expect additional details and more information from your union as the program is implemented.

ALPA: The Pilots Union
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Old 03-31-2011 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spakler
I just found this. Hilarious...and some good points!

YouTube - DPA Pilot Lounge Chat Part 1
So, I'm assuming you pulled the short straw on the PtP committee. Or are you a full time office type doing this on FPL?

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Old 04-01-2011 | 05:53 AM
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Go away. We don't need you here. Go do this on Flightinfo.
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Old 04-01-2011 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
So, I'm assuming you pulled the short straw on the PtP committee. Or are you a full time office type doing this on FPL?

Nu
P2P is NOT in existence for that reason.
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Old 04-01-2011 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Go away. We don't need you here. Go do this on Flightinfo.
I do agree, whoever the Faux-Carl is needs to take a hike. DFTT.
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