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Old 04-20-2011 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Yup. I prefer it so much to the ALPA law team of: Pinkie, French & Flee.






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Why did you post a picture of an airbus on there?
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Old 04-20-2011 | 07:57 PM
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I can't wait to send mine in!
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Old 04-21-2011 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty
I can't wait to send mine in!
Why?

They are filing a scope grievance and sending the BP5 one to the System Board.

They are going to continue to research the RAH one.

Isn't being more forceful with the company what people wanted? These are two significant cases that are going to be fought.

What could a "DPA" have done differently in this instance?
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Old 04-21-2011 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Why?

They are filing a scope grievance and sending the BP5 one to the System Board.

They are going to continue to research the RAH one.

Isn't being more forceful with the company what people wanted? These are two significant cases that are going to be fought.

What could a "DPA" have done differently in this instance?

Nothing. People are just frustrated, and sending in a DPA card, is a good "Red Meat" moment. It makes them feel good, it is a way to vent frustration at the situation that we all have faced the last ten years. ALPA is just the easiest target.
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Old 04-21-2011 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Pretty bummed out right now Jesse. Can you throw us a bone from your collection of photos? It may not help...but it couldn't hurt!

Carl
Sorry didn't see this sooner, but better late than never. It does put one in a better mood.



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Old 04-21-2011 | 06:16 AM
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The best union in the industry is the IPA--in house pilot union at UPS.
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Old 04-21-2011 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by To Stay or Go
The best union in the industry is the IPA--in house pilot union at UPS.
You mean the one with furloughed pilots and a profitable company? I think the SWAPA folks and the FDX guys would argue with a statement such as yours....

you guys are very similar to SWAPA for sure, you both have followed in the footsteps of ALPA groups before you, piggybacking on others but never really "leading the industry".....
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Old 04-21-2011 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Nothing. People are just frustrated, and sending in a DPA card, is a good "Red Meat" moment. It makes them feel good, it is a way to vent frustration at the situation that we all have faced the last ten years. ALPA is just the easiest target.
There's some element of truth to what you say. But there's also way more to it than that. ALPA is an "easy target" because, for the past decade, they did not stand up for our profession.
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Old 04-21-2011 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Why?

They are filing a scope grievance...
But not the really big important one.

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...and sending the BP5 one to the System Board.
That is good.

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They are going to continue to research the RAH one.
Their own email just surrendered on that one. It's lost.

Originally Posted by shiznit
Isn't being more forceful with the company what people wanted? These are two significant cases that are going to be fought.

What could a "DPA" have done differently in this instance?
Not sending out an email that makes management's case and completely prejudices the case going forward.

Carl
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Old 04-21-2011 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Nothing. People are just frustrated, and sending in a DPA card, is a good "Red Meat" moment. It makes them feel good, it is a way to vent frustration at the situation that we all have faced the last ten years. ALPA is just the easiest target.
A total misread of the situation and of the pilot group.

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