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Old 01-11-2012 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
You should see some of the resumes of the people ALPA has recruited over the last few years.
And you should see some of the salaries! A good friend of mine quit flying to go to work full time as an ALPA safety guy. Over 100K, weekends off, holidays off, FREE healthcare, good vacation, better retirement than we have, etc. etc. They do have some sharp guys there, but we sure are paying for them!
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Old 01-11-2012 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
They do have some sharp guys there, but we sure are paying for them!
Yeah, and that's the problem. We're paying for "them" when we are supposed to be paying for RESULTS.
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Old 01-11-2012 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I mean it. You should see some of the resumes of the people ALPA has recruited over the last few years.
I'd be excited if they were working exclusively for us...not us and the regionals.

From a DFR standpoint, those "sharp" guys are required to work just as hard to help DCI, Alaska (and others who would be thrilled to take my job) as they do to improve my pay and QOL..right? Please tell me if that's incorrect.

Since I'm basically paying those top guns to help non-Delta pilots lower the bar and put me on the street, I'm afraid I don't share your boundless enthusiasm.

You know what, if we keep Delta pilots' dues money in-house instead of sending it to be wasted by national, I bet we can hire those folks (or even better) to work exclusively for us.

Until then, please don't rub my nose in the fact that I'm paying top-notch guys to ruin my career.

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Old 01-11-2012 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Being lied to just makes me angry
Bar,

I hate being lied to as well...

But (correct me if I'm wrong) TWA pilots sued ALPA because they felt ALPA had failed in their duty to fairly represent the TWA pilots in their SLI negotiations with AMR and APA.

They won the lawsuit,and in addition, ALPA was found guilty of destroying evidence.

I consider ALPA's actions (with respect to both the SLI negotiations and the ensuing lawsuit ) to be a he** of a lot worse than one email sent by DPA which may (or may not) be stretching things a bit.
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Old 01-11-2012 | 04:14 PM
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Old 01-11-2012 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The Bar Code will have to do with other Upgrades.
If there's a reason, then why play "I have a secret?"

More to the point: What can a bar code on a useless cardboard ALPA card possibly do to further the Delta pilots' agenda? Unless it involves SWA+ and huge QOL increases, stop wasting my time and money.
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Old 01-11-2012 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The Bar Code will have to do with other Upgrades.

I was on Linkedin looking at our support staff in DC. I have to say that I am really impressed by their qualifications. No this is not flamebait, I mean it. You should see some of the resumes of the people ALPA has recruited over the last few years.
You have got to be kidding me. I don't even know where to start.

"other upgrades?" like what?

"really impressed by their qualifications?" that's great. sounds like wasted Delta dues to me.

I think it's about time to lump you in with alfaromero, sailingfun, pineapple guy, and all the other ALPA propaganda-spewers.
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Old 01-11-2012 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by More Bacon
If there's a reason, then why play "I have a secret?"

More to the point: What can a bar code on a useless cardboard ALPA card possibly do to further the Delta pilots' agenda? Unless it involves SWA+ and huge QOL increases, stop wasting my time and money.
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You have got to be kidding me. I don't even know where to start.

"other upgrades?" like what?

"really impressed by their qualifications?" that's great. sounds like wasted Delta dues to me.

I think it's about time to lump you in with alfaromero, sailingfun, pineapple guy, and all the other ALPA propaganda-spewers.
GMAB, read the letter. Those are some of the upgrades. The way I see it, it will do more than sit in your wallet and get wrinkled. This is also required by the CBL, as stated in the letter.

It just gets a little old to hear that every darn thing ALPA does is bad.

As for the people ALPA hires. Frankly we got some really bight and capable people working here. Good for us, and I too expect to see the produce results.

As for 100K a year. If that is all the people are making with 15-20 years of related experience, two post graduate degrees, and living in DC, that is really a sign of how bad the economy is. Those people are worth well over twice that. (So are we) My point was, I am really impressed by their resumes.
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Old 01-11-2012 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
As for 100K a year. If that is all the people are making with 15-20 years of related experience, two post graduate degrees, and living in DC, that is really a sign of how bad the economy is. Those people are worth well over twice that. (So are we) My point was, I am really impressed by their resumes.
100K with all the benefits was starting pay for a 32 year old guy who has a bachelors degree in aviation safety from one of the pilot schools that is mostly internet based. Far from a mulitple post grad degree guy. Those guys probably make 250K.
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Old 01-12-2012 | 04:01 AM
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