USAirways Retirement Numbers
10-21-2011, 04:51 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
The Captain rates at USAIR are about the same as the FO rates at many other airlines. I would look elsewhere until that mess is sorted out. Good chance the airline will either merge or be broken up.
10-21-2011, 04:54 AM
#23
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if you are capable, try running a spreadsheet on monthly guarantee versus hourly rate for each year until you retire. I did. I gave USAirways a 4 year upgrade on the E190 where most other majors I gave between 7-10 years. Anyway, even with the early upgrade USAirways still comes in at total career earnings below Spirit and over $350k below DAL, 1.9m behind SWA. Just sayin.
Just to add I actually make only ~$250k total career earnings less if I stay at my RJ outfit till 65 versus going to USAir.. Not my plan, but man those rates at Airways are really that bad..
Just to add I actually make only ~$250k total career earnings less if I stay at my RJ outfit till 65 versus going to USAir.. Not my plan, but man those rates at Airways are really that bad..
10-21-2011, 07:01 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by Phuz
if you are capable, try running a spreadsheet on monthly guarantee versus hourly rate for each year until you retire. I did. I gave USAirways a 4 year upgrade on the E190 where most other majors I gave between 7-10 years. Anyway, even with the early upgrade USAirways still comes in at total career earnings below Spirit and over $350k below DAL, 1.9m behind SWA. Just sayin.
Just to add I actually make only ~$250k total career earnings less if I stay at my RJ outfit till 65 versus going to USAir.. Not my plan, but man those rates at Airways are really that bad..
Just to add I actually make only ~$250k total career earnings less if I stay at my RJ outfit till 65 versus going to USAir.. Not my plan, but man those rates at Airways are really that bad..
Do you really think they are going to have those rates in 30 Years? Everything changes you never know what will happen next. To base your numbers on something today is a waste of your time.
10-21-2011, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Georgia22
Do you really think they are going to have those rates in 30 Years? Everything changes you never know what will happen next. To base your numbers on something today is a waste of your time.
Also throw into you will not even earn a 2nd week of vacation until year 5 is it? Most lines have 14 days off where you can get more days off else where. You will be at work more, earn less, and have less vacation at USairways then others.....
10-21-2011, 08:16 AM
#26
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Try this:
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...t-numbers.html
Or, if you prefer to join the never-ending useless forum bickering (one of many):
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...files-tro.html
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...t-numbers.html
Or, if you prefer to join the never-ending useless forum bickering (one of many):
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...files-tro.html
10-21-2011, 08:24 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by Georgia22
Do you really think they are going to have those rates in 30 Years? Everything changes you never know what will happen next. To base your numbers on something today is a waste of your time.
10-21-2011, 08:37 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
To base your numbers off anything more is ignorant. No new contract in the near future and even with retirements happening keeps you knowing USairways will always pay less then others. The Parker continues to say unless there is a merger USairways pay is NEVER going to be near others like Delta, American, UAL, SWA etc.......
Also throw into you will not even earn a 2nd week of vacation until year 5 is it? Most lines have 14 days off where you can get more days off else where. You will be at work more, earn less, and have less vacation aht USairways then others.....
Also throw into you will not even earn a 2nd week of vacation until year 5 is it? Most lines have 14 days off where you can get more days off else where. You will be at work more, earn less, and have less vacation aht USairways then others.....
10-21-2011, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by fullflank
Its actually one week vacation for the first six years that you're on property. Yes those horrible rates are here to stay. Us air guys words not mine. Even the Kirby proposal was hardly an improvement. Capts top out at 144 I think. That's below most airlines bankruptcy rates.
not that it's much better but top pay is a whopping $160
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