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Old 10-21-2011 | 08:49 AM
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not that it's much better but top pay is a whopping $160
You're talking about the 330 Capt pay. I mean the A321/20/19 and 73 Capt rates in the new proposal. Topped out at 144
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Old 10-21-2011 | 09:49 PM
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To base your numbers off anything more is ignorant. No new contract in the near future and even with retirements happening keeps you knowing USairways will always pay less then others. The Parker continues to say unless there is a merger USairways pay is NEVER going to be near others like Delta, American, UAL, SWA etc.......

Also throw into you will not even earn a 2nd week of vacation until year 5 is it? Most lines have 14 days off where you can get more days off else where. You will be at work more, earn less, and have less vacation at USairways then others.....

Spot on.

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Old 10-22-2011 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
To base your numbers off anything more is ignorant. No new contract in the near future and even with retirements happening keeps you knowing USairways will always pay less then others. The Parker continues to say unless there is a merger USairways pay is NEVER going to be near others like Delta, American, UAL, SWA etc.......

Also throw into you will not even earn a 2nd week of vacation until year 5 is it? Most lines have 14 days off where you can get more days off else where. You will be at work more, earn less, and have less vacation at USairways then others.....

If you figured it out that it is going to be such an awful place for the next 30 years then don't apply.
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Old 10-22-2011 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuz
Spot on.

Polish the leather jacket yet? It's gettin nippy..
Haha those things are ugly. Its in the closet as it has been for the last 3 years.
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Old 10-22-2011 | 06:34 AM
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If you figured it out that it is going to be such an awful place for the next 30 years then don't apply.
Don't intend to. Are you a regional fo? Most CAs are not too willing to jump to USairways as you seem to be. Those who have live in CLT PHL or DCA. I'd not ever turn a legacy down but if hired I'd be using it as a stepping stone.

You know I seem to remember DAL open their application window and got like 20,000 applicants. USairways had like 6,000. Think there's a reason for so little as compared to DAL????
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Old 10-22-2011 | 04:51 PM
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Old 10-22-2011 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
Don't intend to. Are you a regional fo? Most CAs are not too willing to jump to USairways as you seem to be. Those who have live in CLT PHL or DCA. I'd not ever turn a legacy down but if hired I'd be using it as a stepping stone.

You know I seem to remember DAL open their application window and got like 20,000 applicants. USairways had like 6,000. Think there's a reason for so little as compared to DAL????
hummm. 20,000 applicants for several hundred positions, and 6,000 applicants for 20 positions in all of 2011. That's like .03% they took. by my math Airways got more applicants percentage wise. If it's such a bad place to work then why are people dying to get on?
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Old 10-22-2011 | 05:54 PM
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hummm. 20,000 applicants for several hundred positions, and 6,000 applicants for 20 positions in all of 2011. That's like .03% they took. by my math Airways got more applicants percentage wise. If it's such a bad place to work then why are people dying to get on?
Your logic makes as much sense as the guy basing a jump on a future contract and a quick upgrade.

Also there is something to be said about a company who's management team admits to their system/routes being the weakest of the hub and spoke carriers. Who continue to say they rather keep their fleet at fleet minimums. A mgt team who openly admit they're pay is the weakest and always will be to stay competitive.....

Fyi.... I realize we dont choose and pick who will hire us. Its all about timing and opportunity. But few would choose or say Airways is the best pilot job out there.....
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Old 10-22-2011 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
Don't intend to. Are you a regional fo? Most CAs are not too willing to jump to USairways as you seem to be. Those who have live in CLT PHL or DCA. I'd not ever turn a legacy down but if hired I'd be using it as a stepping stone.

You know I seem to remember DAL open their application window and got like 20,000 applicants. USairways had like 6,000. Think there's a reason for so little as compared to DAL????

Maybe it isn't for everybody. But these regional captains that you say wouldn't be willing to come over are very short sighted. I understand it is a big paycut but someday when this fine union gets it together it will get better. In case you can't see regionals are not going to be the same as they were when everybody was bankrupt, with growth and quick upgrades. If I was at a regional I would be trying to get out quick. Just remember it is a marthon not a sprint. An no I am an ex regional Captain.
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Old 10-22-2011 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
Don't intend to. Are you a regional fo? Most CAs are not too willing to jump to USairways as you seem to be. Those who have live in CLT PHL or DCA. I'd not ever turn a legacy down but if hired I'd be using it as a stepping stone.

You know I seem to remember DAL open their application window and got like 20,000 applicants. USairways had like 6,000. Think there's a reason for so little as compared to DAL????
You have to remember that not a lot of places are hiring. The guys that I know of that recently got hired: One Air Whisky captain and one Piedmont captain. Both high time. The worst major is still better than the best regional.
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