Originally Posted by newKnow

As far as the 7 year fence, what does the ruling say? What if they get more 320's? What if they dump the 320's?


The beauty of the airline business is that potentially there is always something better (or worse) looming on the horizon.

Originally Posted by F9 A319

The number 1 Midwest guy is at 1002, 62 years old with 32 years of longevity.

The RAH guy 1 number senior to him was BORN 42 days before the Midwest guy was HIRED at Midwest.

RAH DOB = 10/20/1978

MEA DOH = 12/01/1978

Originally Posted by groundspoiler

Yea, YX wasn't around DUH! If you did your homework the top 10 pilots at YX flew for Kimberly-Clark who started up YX in 1984 with the top 10 pilots from KC! Unbelievable!

Originally Posted by F9 A319

I would also like to encourage the RAH pilots to accept the outcome of the arbitration with respect and dignity. Everyone put on their best case and the outcome has been decided. That's great for some of you, but I'm sure you'll have folks that are very angry, every airline has those people.

You've been given seniority over some very decent, hardworking and experienced pilots. I'd take it in a heart beat if I were in your position and be happy it worked out for me.

But keep it in perspective. The Midwest guys were the most damaged in this process and lost the most. They are in a grieving process for the loss of what their company was like, the crews they won't see again and the prospect of starting over in jobs around the world, if they can get them.

Enjoy your victory but remember that many of the MEA and some of the F9 pilots have been doing this along time, they have earned a level of respect. There is much you can learn from them and hopefully much RAH management can learn from them, that might not be an exactly peaceful education process for management.

Of course, Frontier has it's idiots and they're usually loud - like most idiots. I'd encourage the F9 pilots to accept the result of the arbitration for now and move on. It's not the RAH pilot's fault they ended up where they did and they should also be treated with respect.

Lets all try to see what we can make of the future instead of attacking each other. It could have been better for each of us but it could have been worse as well. Ultimately, an Arbitrator, that we all agreed upon, made his decision. Agree with it or not it's our truth for the moment.

We're all probably going to see quite a bit of turnover as people adjust to the new reality and decide they want to try their luck elsewhere. I wish those that leave and those that stay good luck. We're all going to need it as RAH tries to manage an airline for their first time and management's egos won't allow them to admit they don't have a clue and bring in someone that does.

Personally, I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if RAH OR Frontier is in business as long as the duration of the fence. And THAT"S too bad for all of us.