Delta getting close to fleet renewal order
06-30-2011 | 04:46 PM
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Just a wild ass guess here guys but you know the only part of Compass that was sold to TSA was the certificate. The planes are still owned by DAL. I suspect that depending on what happens with our scope section in contract talks determines the fate of Compass. We know DAL doesn't really want 50 seaters and frankly I don't think they want the 70 seaters either. The money is in the 100 seater. If we give it up then the connection carriers will be flying those planes. If the 100 seater is to be flown by DAL pilots, as it should be, I suspect that DAL will buy back Compass from TSA, give the pilots a seniority number and trade in the 175's for 190's.
I could be wrong of course...
I could be wrong of course...
06-30-2011 | 05:12 PM
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Just a wild ass guess here guys but you know the only part of Compass that was sold to TSA was the certificate. The planes are still owned by DAL. I suspect that depending on what happens with our scope section in contract talks determines the fate of Compass. We know DAL doesn't really want 50 seaters and frankly I don't think they want the 70 seaters either. The money is in the 100 seater. If we give it up then the connection carriers will be flying those planes. If the 100 seater is to be flown by DAL pilots, as it should be, I suspect that DAL will buy back Compass from TSA, give the pilots a seniority number and trade in the 175's for 190's.
I could be wrong of course...
I could be wrong of course...
06-30-2011 | 05:17 PM
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I don't think the company wants or will purchase a 100 seat aircraft. They may ask for 100 seats in scope but if they do it will be as a throwaway item in negotiations. The company can't give Compass a seniority number. They have to allow the union process to solve the seniority issue. If the company purchases Compass and decides to merge the operation the SLI would almost certainly go to arbitration.
06-30-2011 | 05:34 PM
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Why could they not be stapled and given a seniority number? The 400 or so that were on the list the day of the sale still have flow up rights, and those hired after are junior to all of those with flow, so it was seem even with an arbitration that the proper place would be at the end of the list.
Epic strategic fail on behalf of the Moak contingent of the Delta MEC. The Reps who shot their members in the back need to be remembered and voted against, frequently and often, until they understand the error of their short sighted "go along" misrepresentation of the members who trusted them.
It seems a lack of unity always hurts the mainline guys who it is purported to protect by keeping the "undesirable flying" away from the mainline pilots.
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06-30-2011 | 05:51 PM
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I guess time will tell if our "concerns" were correct Bar.
As for CPS and TSH. Yes, DAL still owns the jets, TSH has a 10 year deal to fly that gauge of jet, and DAL can let them fly whatever they want within the bounds of our PWA, and their CPA. My guess is, this CPA is a lot more "at risk."
Just remember that TSH has a nice tall order in for a 100 seat jet.
As for CPS and TSH. Yes, DAL still owns the jets, TSH has a 10 year deal to fly that gauge of jet, and DAL can let them fly whatever they want within the bounds of our PWA, and their CPA. My guess is, this CPA is a lot more "at risk."
Just remember that TSH has a nice tall order in for a 100 seat jet.
06-30-2011 | 05:54 PM
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I guess time will tell if our "concerns" were correct Bar.
As for CPS and TSH. Yes, DAL still owns the jets, TSH has a 10 year deal to fly that gauge of jet, and DAL can let them fly whatever they want within the bounds of our PWA, and their CPA. My guess is, this CPA is a lot more "at risk."
Just remember that TSH has a nice tall order in for a 100 seat jet.
As for CPS and TSH. Yes, DAL still owns the jets, TSH has a 10 year deal to fly that gauge of jet, and DAL can let them fly whatever they want within the bounds of our PWA, and their CPA. My guess is, this CPA is a lot more "at risk."
Just remember that TSH has a nice tall order in for a 100 seat jet.
06-30-2011 | 06:10 PM
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According to Reuters:
Now a bit of wild speculation ... Republic wants to be rid of Frontier. Movement of management types between companies suggests Pinnacle is in play. Compass has a small EMB175 fleet. Look at the stock of those two and tell me something is not correlating.
Delta may very well split their order.
Now a bit of wild speculation ... Republic wants to be rid of Frontier. Movement of management types between companies suggests Pinnacle is in play. Compass has a small EMB175 fleet. Look at the stock of those two and tell me something is not correlating.
Delta may very well split their order.
06-30-2011 | 06:35 PM
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06-30-2011 | 06:41 PM
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Let's go back and drag up the hundreds of posts on this subject, shall we bar? Or would you rather wear out another keyboard?
All the donut holes in your "plan" were discussed back then.
06-30-2011 | 06:42 PM
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Just a wild ass guess here guys but you know the only part of Compass that was sold to TSA was the certificate. The planes are still owned by DAL. I suspect that depending on what happens with our scope section in contract talks determines the fate of Compass. We know DAL doesn't really want 50 seaters and frankly I don't think they want the 70 seaters either. The money is in the 100 seater. If we give it up then the connection carriers will be flying those planes. If the 100 seater is to be flown by DAL pilots, as it should be, I suspect that DAL will buy back Compass from TSA, give the pilots a seniority number and trade in the 175's for 190's.
I could be wrong of course...
I could be wrong of course...
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