US Airways files TRO
08-09-2011 | 12:05 PM
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Can the east and west pilots fly the same planes? What I mean is, can an east crew bring a plane in and then a west crew take the same plane out? Or are you limited to flying the segregated, pre merger fleet only? And are the same mechanics working on the planes?
If so, I can see how management is framing their argument. I don't agree with it because it does set a bad precedent for other pilot groups.
08-09-2011 | 01:38 PM
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Can the east and west pilots fly the same planes? What I mean is, can an east crew bring a plane in and then a west crew take the same plane out? Or are you limited to flying the segregated, pre merger fleet only? And are the same mechanics working on the planes?
If so, I can see how management is framing their argument. I don't agree with it because it does set a bad precedent for other pilot groups.
If so, I can see how management is framing their argument. I don't agree with it because it does set a bad precedent for other pilot groups.
08-09-2011 | 01:57 PM
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I don't consider statistical norms in my decision making and I doubt that many of us do. I fly to comply with SOP and the FAR's. If that causes some grief somehow,
(disclaimer: LostInPA is not, and never has been, a US East pilot)
08-09-2011 | 03:02 PM
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08-09-2011 | 04:48 PM
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I don't know a Pilot who does, but I guarantee you that the east pilots actions will harm each and every pilot going forward. Their "safety" campaign is so blatant and the company has so much evidence that this won't end well and the whole industry will suffer.
08-09-2011 | 05:07 PM
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08-09-2011 | 05:43 PM
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The sad thing is that on this issue the west pilots should be backing the east pilots 100 percent. Getting USAIR east up to decent pay rates is critical for all pilots in this industry. It will help everyone including the USAIR west pilots.
08-09-2011 | 05:47 PM
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Usair east pilots walked away from negotiations in 2007, the west pilots have nothing to do with any delays, the east pilots are in control
08-09-2011 | 05:48 PM
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I don't think your company has any evidence at all. I think they are hoping to convince a court that skewed statistics are evidence. Conversely, there's plenty of actual evidence of your company pressuring pilots to fly aircraft that the PIC believes to be unsafe. The real hurt to this industry will come from folks like you who aren't BACKING your fellow airman. The fact that you westies can't put aside your disdain for the easties in order to stand tall against managerial abuse is truly sad.
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08-09-2011 | 07:43 PM
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People have a short memory. The east pilots have gotten the crap beat out of them ever since 9/11. If I'm not mistaken most will retire soon, so why not burn the place down. If I had five years or less left and had my pension stollen, pay slashed, and so on all in the name of free market capitalism I'd do my part. Labor is getting its arse kicked, and many are asking for the kicking. I believe the east pilots have had enough.
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