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Old 11-11-2011 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy
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I know some disagree, but I feel you can't expect to be treated (and paid) like a professional if you don't act and look like one.

Just my .02
In my opinion, a hat indoors is not professional either.
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Old 11-11-2011 | 06:45 AM
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The hat is a symbol of a bygone era, and if you look around at crews worldwide today, you'll find that most airlines have ditched it. It definitely has a timeless and classy look, but, just like the F/A hat, it has gone by the wayside.

I like the optional rule... those that like it, wear it... those that don't, don't. End of story. It has nothing to do with professionalism. A hatless pilot with a buttoned blazer and everything neat looks just as professional.
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Old 11-11-2011 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Zymurgist
In my opinion, a hat indoors is not professional either.
Hats are worn indoors in professional settings. It depends upon the uniform standards.
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Old 11-11-2011 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
The hat is a symbol of a bygone era, and if you look around at crews worldwide today, you'll find that most airlines have ditched it. It definitely has a timeless and classy look, but, just like the F/A hat, it has gone by the wayside.

I like the optional rule... those that like it, wear it... those that don't, don't. End of story. It has nothing to do with professionalism. A hatless pilot with a buttoned blazer and everything neat looks just as professional.
I beg to differ! It has everything to do with professionalism...

"The military-style jacket and pilot's cap and the pilot's bars that hark back to the role of ship captain just wouldn't send the right message, (Ann) Rhoades thought. JetBlue pilots would instead wear bright-blue short sleeved shirts, which made them look more like bus drivers, but perhaps that was the point."

"Blue Streak: Inside jetblue, the upstart that rocked an industry", by Barbara Peterson. Chapter 6.
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Old 11-11-2011 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Flavio340
Not pay specific but the negotiations web site has today's update: American Airlines Negotiations

It does not give the pay rate but shows the proposed 'Banded equipment.' I find it interesting that the A319/B737-700 are in a separate group, can we say B scale.
I'm hearing Delta +1 and within 4 years Southwest pay for narrow bodies.
Not sure if the Delta +1 means 737 or a blend or what.
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Old 11-11-2011 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy
+1

I know some disagree, but I feel you can't expect to be treated (and paid) like a professional if you don't act and look like one.

Just my .02
I don't know IFB,

Take a look around the airport. The skycaps who take the luggage curbside wear hats and epiletts. The same with the folks pushing the wheelchairs. It's getting tougher and tougher to easily spot the air crew anymore. Most of our traditions are getting watered down. Which I suspect is intentional.

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Old 11-11-2011 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by The Chow
I don't know IFB,

Take a look around the airport. The skycaps who take the luggage curbside wear hats and epiletts. The same with the folks pushing the wheelchairs. It's getting tougher and tougher to easily spot the air crew anymore. Most of our traditions are getting watered down. Which I suspect is intentional.

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+1000!!

Here here, well said!
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Old 11-11-2011 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
The hat is a symbol of a bygone era, and if you look around at crews worldwide today, you'll find that most airlines have ditched it. It definitely has a timeless and classy look, but, just like the F/A hat, it has gone by the wayside.
Sorry but most airlines internationally use a hat as part of their uniform, I can't really think right now winch airline abroad doesn't use hats, Europe maybe because in Asia and the M.E. all airlines do
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Old 11-11-2011 | 11:08 AM
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Hats no more, just another management tactic to chip-away at this once great and respected profession. Ironic how most pilots have embraced this subtle transformation. WE have merely been reduced to the miscellaneous ranks. Next phase, CAPTAINS AUTHORITY!!... chip,chip-away, after all they're lucky to have jobs.....
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Old 11-11-2011 | 11:08 AM
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they dont wont to wear a hat because it ruins the moose on the hair and where would they rest there sunglasses if they were wearing a hat. All due to the self entitlement group in the business. It is also a way management uses to diminish the professional appearance of a pilot to the traveling pilot. If you look like a bus driver you are looked upon and treated as such. Same goes for the F/A's. Just ask them about the disrespect given them on a flight.
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