787 gets common type rating with 777

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09-08-2011 | 11:39 AM

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This is total bull!@#. Though I'm not surprised - look at the 757-200 and 767-400. Money talks.

And how does DAL fly those two specific fleets you mention????

Seperate.

Nuff said.

09-08-2011 | 11:42 AM

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Yet another cost-saving reason for them to not negotiate a new contract with new rates.

I thought the 787 was smaller, lighter, etc. than the 777? About the size of a 767 ER I was told. So to have it pay the same as the 777 is a good thing, right? My worry is at DAL, we don't do WB Pay, we still pay by type, driven by the seats/weight/speed model from the 1960's. If and when the 787's come to DAL and replace the 777's and 747's, it'll be pay cuts all around if we keep using the same formula for pay rates.

09-08-2011 | 11:43 AM

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Per CAL's "POS" CBA '02 (Current).....
WB="WB Pay"....So yes, B777 & B787 does pay the same (WB) under the above CBA.

But it does not pay the same at DAL.......

09-08-2011 | 11:58 AM

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I thought the 787 was smaller, lighter, etc. than the 777? About the size of a 767 ER I was told. So to have it pay the same as the 777 is a good thing, right?

You're right, it's not so much the rates. The major savings of the common type is having one BES instead of two. The staffing requirements will be lower with one BES. CAL already has one BES for the 757 and 767, plus they don't have any domestic vice international BES. I'm pretty sure many airlines break out qualifications into more BES's than CAL does.

This will keep CAL at just three BES's until the fences start coming down.

09-08-2011 | 11:59 AM

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But it does not pay the same at DAL.......

When's DAL's first slotted B787 delivery??

09-08-2011 | 12:21 PM

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2020...and I tried -really hard- not to laugh when I typed that, but failed!

North West was supposed to get some 3 years ago, but after the merger, King Richard said he's happy with the current fleet, and pushed the delivery date back to, no kidding, 2020!