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Old 11-18-2006 | 08:34 PM
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Skywest guy gets on my very union airplane and we take him home. As he's getting off I innocently ask how things are going in his world. He launches into a tirade about how terrible representation would be, and how a union "would set us back 8 years." I wanted to scream. Couldn't kick him off, cause he was getting off. Clearly he didn't recgonize who was responsible for the selling of the jumpseat concept to the Feds and airlines. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but maybe some discretion when benefitting from the kindness of others.
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Old 11-19-2006 | 07:00 AM
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Skywest guy gets on my very union airplane and we take him home. As he's getting off I innocently ask how things are going in his world. He launches into a tirade about how terrible representation would be, and how a union "would set us back 8 years." I wanted to scream. Couldn't kick him off, cause he was getting off. Clearly he didn't recgonize who was responsible for the selling of the jumpseat concept to the Feds and airlines. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but maybe some discretion when benefitting from the kindness of others.
With SKW starting pay already at 19/hr, I'd hate to see what 8 years ago is like. Any union would almost have to try and lower that.
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Old 11-19-2006 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg52
Summer last year, a Jet Blue capt told the capt and I that

"The problem with you at NWA is that the pilots make too much money. You just got to learn to live with making less".
Just another reason to deny the jumpseat to those B6 potential scab bastiges!
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Old 11-19-2006 | 10:27 AM
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RJ pilot flying UAL colors gets to the cockpit to ask for jumpseat. On his Flt. Bag is a sticker with a picture of an RJ, mouth open eating a Guppy(737). It states GUPPY KILLER. I told him Sticker or jumpseat he decided to keep his sticker and find another way home. I believe it was a Mesa guy.
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Old 11-19-2006 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueBall
. On his Flt. Bag is a sticker with a picture of an RJ, mouth open eating a Guppy(737)..
WTF is wrong with people? I mean, the guy needs his ass kicked.
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Old 11-20-2006 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
WTF is wrong with people? I mean, the guy needs his ass kicked.

I'd make him take the sticker off too. And I fly an RJ.
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Old 11-20-2006 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
At UAL, like a few other places, they have scabs. And like other places, the scabs are not well liked. Despite what one thinks of ALPA, all the pilots (non -scab) wear ALPA pins on their ties. Scabs do not. I'm not sure if they are entitled to representation or not. The "slick tie" as they call it is giving it away that they are a scab. Hence, if the guys has a "slick tie", he probably won't get much respect from anybody.

Careful with this. A scab is a scab. A tie is a tie. They do not alway match up. I know many non-scabs ****ed off at ALPA that don't wear their pins. I went through a period of time when my pin fell off and was lost. It took me months to replace it. Look at the tie and then verify that it is true. Don't just act on a tie without a pin.

APLA and CALAPLA gives out lots of bag stickers to put on for various reasons. I don't put any of them on. I have the nylon bag; they do not stick. That does not make me a bad/non-union pilot. I was on the strike committee for the last contract.
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Old 11-20-2006 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Careful with this. A scab is a scab. A tie is a tie. They do not alway match up. I know many non-scabs ****ed off at ALPA that don't wear their pins. I went through a period of time when my pin fell off and was lost. It took me months to replace it. Look at the tie and then verify that it is true. Don't just act on a tie without a pin.

APLA and CALAPLA gives out lots of bag stickers to put on for various reasons. I don't put any of them on. I have the nylon bag; they do not stick. That does not make me a bad/non-union pilot. I was on the strike committee for the last contract.

Do you work for CAL or UAL? I know, you spent all this time at XJet and know you have moved on to CAL and think it's so cool to fly the 75/76. But CAL's pilot group and UAL's pilot group are different in alot of ways. Ask a UAL friend (if you have one) what he thinks, I just ask my dad. He spent 33 years there and walked a picket line once in my lifetime. My brother spent 10. Ask your UAL friends what a "slick tie"means. Again, I'll just ask my dad or brother.

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Old 11-20-2006 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ottopilot
Careful with this. A scab is a scab. A tie is a tie. They do not alway match up. I know many non-scabs ****ed off at ALPA that don't wear their pins. I went through a period of time when my pin fell off and was lost. It took me months to replace it. Look at the tie and then verify that it is true. Don't just act on a tie without a pin.

APLA and CALAPLA gives out lots of bag stickers to put on for various reasons. I don't put any of them on. I have the nylon bag; they do not stick. That does not make me a bad/non-union pilot. I was on the strike committee for the last contract.
I agree. Im an ALPA member but as a first year pilot I am not fully represented by ALPA so I don't fully represent ALPA. Yes, I know I am not paying union dues yet so lets not go down that road. I carry my ALPA card in my wallet if anyone wants to see it. But until ALPA looks out for the interests of first year pilots or I become a second year pilot, then I am not going to wear the pin or the bag tags. *dons O2 mask and smoke goggles* OK, flame away.
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Old 11-20-2006 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
I agree. Im an ALPA member but as a first year pilot I am not fully represented by ALPA so I don't fully represent ALPA. Yes, I know I am not paying union dues yet so lets not go down that road. I carry my ALPA card in my wallet if anyone wants to see it. But until ALPA looks out for the interests of first year pilots or I become a second year pilot, then I am not going to wear the pin or the bag tags. *dons O2 mask and smoke goggles* OK, flame away.
What exactly do you mean by looking out for first year pilots? If it's pay only, then I would agree. But, I have seen more than once where a probationary pilot got himself into trouble somehow and ALPA still represented him and kept him from getting fired.
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