US/DL Slot Swap Approved
10-14-2011, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Personally I would not want to be a non-union group merging with SWA.
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10-14-2011, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
I don't know.... Having a union is not doing Air Tran pilots much good right now.
10-15-2011, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Some might argue that having a union isn't doing the Southwest pilots much good right now either. Now, having a supportive management is doing the Southwest pilots a whole lot of good.
10-15-2011, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Some might argue that having a union isn't doing the Southwest pilots much good right now either. Now, having a supportive management is doing the Southwest pilots a whole lot of good.
10-15-2011, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
I don't know.... Having a union is not doing Air Tran pilots much good right now.
I'm interested to see how this plays out from the standpoint of having two majors carriers integrating with an in-house union and big, powerful ALPA.
Depending on how it pans out, it may or may not be a major selling point for ALPA going into the future.
10-15-2011, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Personally, I think the verdict is still out on this one, even though I agree with you that it may not look very promising for Airtran guys.
I'm interested to see how this plays out from the standpoint of having two majors carriers integrating with an in-house union and big, powerful ALPA.
Depending on how it pans out, it may or may not be a major selling point for ALPA going into the future.
I'm interested to see how this plays out from the standpoint of having two majors carriers integrating with an in-house union and big, powerful ALPA.
Depending on how it pans out, it may or may not be a major selling point for ALPA going into the future.
10-15-2011, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You cannot blame ALPA for what's going on over there. SWAPA is just a champagne drinking, cigar smoking, laughing all the way to the seniority stolen bank beneficiary of heavy handed management. Unless AT calls the bluff, (which isn't likely)and is prepared to take SWA to court over this, SWAPA wins.. but it is not because THEY are inherently more powerful than ALPA
To get back on topic - SWA will most likely gain LGA slots from the US/DL slot swap for a greater presence in New York.
10-15-2011, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Clear Right
Interesting article: What I glean from this article is B6 has the lowest Ex-Fuel CASM in the industry, the highest revenue growth in the industry with a superior customer service product and now one of the strongest airline brands. Oh, and by the way the most productive pilot group in the industry, that is compensated quite well. Currently 5th among all passenger airlines: http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...0PERSONNEL.htm All of this while remaining 100% Non-Union. The most modern and fuel efficient fleet in the industry. Sounds to me like they are doing everything right over at JetBlue. Sounds like the SWA of not too long ago.
Why would the Board of Directors want to merge or fragment with the huge upside potential of JetBlue. All of this done during the worst economic times of the Airline Industry, imagine these numbers under a robust economy. Only way I see a B6 tie-up, while I agree they are a very attractive target is through some type of hostile takeover with a huge premium on their stock price. Don't forget that Lufthansa owns a large stake in the company and would like to keep it that way and they are very well financed.
Why would the Board of Directors want to merge or fragment with the huge upside potential of JetBlue. All of this done during the worst economic times of the Airline Industry, imagine these numbers under a robust economy. Only way I see a B6 tie-up, while I agree they are a very attractive target is through some type of hostile takeover with a huge premium on their stock price. Don't forget that Lufthansa owns a large stake in the company and would like to keep it that way and they are very well financed.
10-15-2011, 06:45 AM
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My point is that JetBlue is a very successful company. It will most likely take two management partners for a dance. There are many here who are convinced JetBlue is "In-Play", my point is that in play will most likely be a hostile takeover, which is tougher than most think.
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