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12-27-2011 | 10:40 AM

#41

Jay5150

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Originally Posted by Clear Right

But in less than 10 years we are the 5th best compensated pilot group of all the majors.

Just for clarification, which airlines, specifically, are you using in this comparison?

12-27-2011 | 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Clear Right

But in less than 10 years we are the 5th best compensated pilot group of all the majors.

Hourly rate doesnt mean jack without workrules and a contract to back it up.

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12-27-2011 | 12:04 PM

#43

Clear Right

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Originally Posted by vandypilot

Hourly rate doesnt mean jack without workrules and a contract to back it up.

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...0PERSONNEL.htm

The average Delta pilot earns only $2300 a year more than the average B6 pilot. JetBlue has no widebody rates bringing up the average, and they have E-190 pay scales in their average. I would say B6 pilots do quite well in comparison. Yes, our 10% company match (5% 401k, 5% Guar Profit Sharing) needs to improve, but our work rules are pretty good and our vacation is very good. And, yes we do have a contract to back it up, just not a CBA. Owe, throw 2-3% raise on there because no union dues. So I guess the average is better than Delta.

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12-27-2011 | 12:24 PM

#44

johnso29

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Never mind.....

12-27-2011 | 01:21 PM

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In JfK when I am told to taxi behind the virgin on papa.... That alone makes them awesome....

Good luck to you guys.. There will always be hatters

12-27-2011 | 01:43 PM

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80ktsClamp

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Originally Posted by rightside02

In JfK when I am told to taxi behind the virgin on papa.... That alone makes them awesome....

Good luck to you guys.. There will always be hatters

Yes... yes there will always be hatters, and they will be mad.

12-27-2011 | 01:57 PM

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peastain

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Yes... yes there will always be hatters, and they will be mad.

Now that's one ugly hatter!!!

12-27-2011 | 02:08 PM

#48

frozenboxhauler

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[QUOTE=rightside02;1108278]In JfK when I am told to taxi behind the virgin on papa.... That alone makes them awesome....

I love it!!

Well, at least he won't crush her smokes!
fbh

12-27-2011 | 02:47 PM

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Clear Right

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Originally Posted by johnso29

Never mind.....

Oh, that's right, the MIT data that is based on US DOT Form 41 via BTS, Schedule P6 & P10 is biased and unfactual right? That is the argument that is always brought up by certain folks when presenting these facts. It was a Delta guy that "questioned" the source, just posting the facts. Unless of course you don't trust DOT data.