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Old 02-22-2012 | 09:33 AM
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So other than the money, what is the "bright side" of China and the Middle East? Is it that you can have a "high definition" virtual relationship with your wife and kids through Skype?
Totally agree.. I don't get it either
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Old 02-22-2012 | 02:16 PM
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Old 02-22-2012 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IADBLRJ41
UAL SUX- Have you been offered one of the slots over at CAL? Understanding it isn't a perfect deal are you close to going?
I received the offer but declined.
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Old 02-22-2012 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
UAL SUX, sorry for your misfortune in the airline industry. I'm a guy that likes to look on the bright side. You were obviously a highly qualified pilot both times you were furloughed. Did you try to jump anywhere else is much more lucrative? UPS,FedEx, SWA, China, Middle East?
No.

I flew freighters for 8 years prior to being hired by UAL. I'm finished working 3rd shift. Not saying it's a bad job, just not for me. And there is no way I would uproot my wife and children and drag them halfway around the world just so I can continue to fly airplanes.
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Old 02-22-2012 | 03:51 PM
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United has been a rough ride indeed. I have had the complete opposite of your experience. I hope you've found a successful alternative for you & your family.
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Old 02-23-2012 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Just curious, is there a push to decertify ALPA and bring an in-house union at the new UCAL? and if so is it gaining momentum?

I'm not on the property anymore, so I really don't know. There were organized attempts to oust ALPA when I was there but they were unsuccessful.
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Old 02-23-2012 | 09:57 AM
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... Student pilot here.

Hey all, I was accepted to ERAU for the fall and am looking at the full 6 year BS and Masters programs for professional pilot. Also looking at the price tag on the student loans. I know ERAU is expensive and thats not the point im going to,,, but if the market for pilots are that bad, as UAL SUX say, I would be looking at another school with a cheaper tuition. When looking at the idea of having a 300k debt and getting a 26k job out of school, man thats a VERY scary idea.

Any ideas on other companies and rates would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-23-2012 | 10:09 AM
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... Student pilot here.

Hey all, I was accepted to ERAU for the fall and am looking at the full 6 year BS and Masters programs for professional pilot. Also looking at the price tag on the student loans. I know ERAU is expensive and thats not the point im going to,,, but if the market for pilots are that bad, as UAL SUX say, I would be looking at another school with a cheaper tuition. When looking at the idea of having a 300k debt and getting a 26k job out of school, man thats a VERY scary idea.

Any ideas on other companies and rates would be greatly appreciated.
Go to a real university and get a non-aviation degree! Get your ratings on the side from a local FBO. You'll spend a good 100k+ less, have a lot more fun, and get a higher quality education than the east florida all-boys school.
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Old 02-23-2012 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by F117stephan
... Student pilot here.

Hey all, I was accepted to ERAU for the fall and am looking at the full 6 year BS and Masters programs for professional pilot. Also looking at the price tag on the student loans. I know ERAU is expensive and thats not the point im going to,,, but if the market for pilots are that bad, as UAL SUX say, I would be looking at another school with a cheaper tuition. When looking at the idea of having a 300k debt and getting a 26k job out of school, man thats a VERY scary idea.

Any ideas on other companies and rates would be greatly appreciated.
This may be the single, most important piece of advice you will ever get in your life:

Don't spend $300k on 'pilot' degrees/training!!!!!!!

Having said that, if you want to fly, that's fine. Just don't get Pro Pilot degrees. Take the advice in this thread, diversify. Get a degree in another industry you are interested in (you'll need it when you get furloughed) and fly on the side. I wish I had that kind of advice when I went to college. I've been furloughed twice and I'm not even 30 yet.
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Old 02-23-2012 | 10:51 AM
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I couldn't agree more...to add to that, ask around where people actually went to gain their ratings/licenses. There are a lot of schools that will drag out your training and milk you for many thousands more than another school to gain the same ratings.
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