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Express pilot , 05-16-2012 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IBPilot

You recall incorrectly. CA 50 seat max is currently $103.91 increasing to $113.58 in 3 years. for the -900 it's 108.89 increasing to $119.02. Pay isn't everything you know...work rules, QOL, not having to commute etc. I'm making $9-10 more than a current Comair CA at my longevity and $3-4 more than a Skywest CA. Who cares what the Comair guys got in 01 for their new contract, look where it got them now. And I think 9e pay is equal to or better than that Comair 01 contract. The chart on APC has not been updated for Pinnacle's new contract. Can we leave the "my crappy regional is better than your crappy regional" argument to the regional thread?

Now if you are talking about managements concessionary contract proposal, which came out a few weeks ago, you are right that is a POS that will set us back to pre-99 contract conditions. The concessionary rates are on par with the rates you are saying.

The Thread is called Delta has a TA. Not what 9e pay is.

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IBPilot , 05-16-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Express pilot

The Thread is called Delta has a TA. Not what 9e pay is.

then tell that to the Delta pilot who brought it up. And y'all might want to be aware of what Pinnacle's 717/E190/c1000/-900 proposed rates are in your upcoming TA vote. think scope?

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SailorJerry , 05-16-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Express pilot

The Thread is called Delta has a TA. Not what 9e pay is.

Well we have to know what top 9E CA pay is so when the -900s start rolling in we know whether or not we're getting 25% more than a Regional guy. Gotta make sure we didn't just sign off on a B scale.

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SailorJerry , 05-16-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by IBPilot

then tell that to the Delta pilot who brought it up. And y'all might want to be aware of what Pinnacle's 717/E190 proposed rates are in your upcoming negotiations. think scope?

Thats awesome. Take that!!

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NWA320pilot , 05-16-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by IBPilot

then tell that to the Delta pilot who brought it up. And y'all might want to be aware of what Pinnacle's 717/E190 proposed rates are in your upcoming negotiations. think scope?

And you know this how?????

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IBPilot , 05-16-2012 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SailorJerry

Well we have to know what top 9E CA pay is so when the -900s start rolling in we know whether or not we're getting 25% more than a Regional guy. Gotta make sure we didn't just sign off on a B scale.

thanks for the save. We are thinking along the same lines...

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IBPilot , 05-16-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot

And you know this how?????

Have you read the Pinnacle proposed concessionary contract? Search it. it's not a secret document. Rates for MTOW for something close to 717 is in there, and they are pathetic.

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NWA320pilot , 05-16-2012 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IBPilot

Have you read the Pinnacle proposed concessionary contract? Search it. Rates for MTOW for something close to 717 is in there, and they are pathetic.

Sorry read it differently..... Thought you were referring to what was contained in our negotiations.

Something to remember though is just because there is a rate in a contract doesn't make for the aircraft on property.

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SailorJerry , 05-16-2012 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot

And you know this how?????

If RA allowed the outsourcing of a true narrow body aircraft we'd have enough sound bytes to hold against him to force him to resign. We're not going to sign off on a B scale and we're not going to allow that type of scope relief.

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Brocc15 , 05-16-2012 07:35 AM

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So there's a rumor on the Continental forums that our new contract will be 10% pay increase with scope relaxation. Honestly I find that hard to believe though, I just don't think our MEC would allow that to go through to a vote, but I guess we will find out soon!