Would you work for SWA?
05-22-2012 | 10:00 PM
#61
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05-23-2012 | 12:19 AM
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05-23-2012 | 04:18 AM
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Actually, I have NEVER heard of ANY new hire being late for their initial IOE. Everyone has been late or no showed (I have) but without any probationary period who cares? My mission in life was to stay off the skyline. Mostly I mention this incident so that other AT folks coming on property don't place themselves on the skyline from day one.
The Oscar
Everyone has been late or no showed (I have) but without any probationary period who cares? My mission in life was to stay off the skyline. Mostly I mention this incident so that other AT folks coming on property don't place themselves on the skyline from day one.The Oscar
05-23-2012 | 04:28 AM
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Actually, I have NEVER heard of ANY new hire being late for their initial IOE. Everyone has been late or no showed (I have) but without any probationary period who cares? My mission in life was to stay off the skyline. Mostly I mention this incident so that other AT folks coming on property don't place themselves on the skyline from day one.
The Oscar
Everyone has been late or no showed (I have) but without any probationary period who cares? My mission in life was to stay off the skyline. Mostly I mention this incident so that other AT folks coming on property don't place themselves on the skyline from day one.The Oscar
05-23-2012 | 04:56 AM
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JD,
I'd be willing to bet that more than 50% of current AT FO's have more turbine PIC than you did when you were placed in the SWA pool. Your holier-than-thou persona is revolting and your scattergun attempt at characterizing and stereotyping 1735 INDIVIDUALS is contributing to even more divisiveness. You talk like management but you're merely fresh off probation, so just zip it,
I'd be willing to bet that more than 50% of current AT FO's have more turbine PIC than you did when you were placed in the SWA pool. Your holier-than-thou persona is revolting and your scattergun attempt at characterizing and stereotyping 1735 INDIVIDUALS is contributing to even more divisiveness. You talk like management but you're merely fresh off probation, so just zip it,
05-23-2012 | 05:09 AM
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Of course not, because no one would bother to spread that rumor. But one AirTran guy does the slightest thing wrong, and guys like you are frothing at the mouth ready to hang him. The arrogance from some of you guys is really without parallel.
05-23-2012 | 08:05 AM
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From: B717 FO
C9B,
Having just flown on AT on vacation (bought my tickets) I was very satisfied. We have a lot to learn from one another. Please don't try to say that everything you are doing is perfect, it is not! You can ask my wife. She personally hates our (SWA's) boarding system. Yours (assigned seats) has some advantages but don't think everything you are doing is all that.
Your (ours) FA's were great on the return flight but not so great on the initial flight. My wife is all about first impressions and luckily I passed. So rising up to standards is a personal decision. As I said we have many things to learn from one another. The sooner we learn those things the better.
The Oscar
Having just flown on AT on vacation (bought my tickets) I was very satisfied. We have a lot to learn from one another. Please don't try to say that everything you are doing is perfect, it is not! You can ask my wife. She personally hates our (SWA's) boarding system. Yours (assigned seats) has some advantages but don't think everything you are doing is all that.
Your (ours) FA's were great on the return flight but not so great on the initial flight. My wife is all about first impressions and luckily I passed. So rising up to standards is a personal decision. As I said we have many things to learn from one another. The sooner we learn those things the better.
The Oscar
BTW,
Given that one of the AT folks was late to intial IOE the other morning. Please try to be on time. Made the rest of you guys/gals look bad when the check airmen had to do the preflight and set up so they only pushed 3 late. I guess it doesn't matter since you are not on probation and it is pay back.
There you go again...AT pilots are conducting themselves professionally. Our record proves this. Again, statements like that just make SWA guys look arrogant and open the chasm between our groups even more. Those thoughts are better left be left unsaid.
C9
05-23-2012 | 08:10 AM
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Actually, I have NEVER heard of ANY new hire being late for their initial IOE. Everyone has been late or no showed (I have) but without any probationary period who cares? My mission in life was to stay off the skyline. Mostly I mention this incident so that other AT folks coming on property don't place themselves on the skyline from day one.
The Oscar
Everyone has been late or no showed (I have) but without any probationary period who cares? My mission in life was to stay off the skyline. Mostly I mention this incident so that other AT folks coming on property don't place themselves on the skyline from day one.The Oscar
05-23-2012 | 08:13 AM
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And that has been the nemesis of quite a few airlines. They continued to do what they had always done when they needed to completely change what they were doing, like Braniff, Eastern, etc....
05-23-2012 | 08:29 AM
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Actually, I have NEVER heard of ANY new hire being late for their initial IOE. Everyone has been late or no showed (I have) but without any probationary period who cares? My mission in life was to stay off the skyline. Mostly I mention this incident so that other AT folks coming on property don't place themselves on the skyline from day one.
The Oscar
Everyone has been late or no showed (I have) but without any probationary period who cares? My mission in life was to stay off the skyline. Mostly I mention this incident so that other AT folks coming on property don't place themselves on the skyline from day one.The Oscar
Just for the enlightenment of our viewing audience, perhaps they'd get an even better sense of the SW pilot "holier than thou" attitude if they knew that SWAPA actually threw across the table at one point in negotiations the concept of having all AirTran pilots be on probation after they transitioned over. Apparently it was quickly squashed by our negotiators.
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