It's so simple
06-18-2012 | 05:21 PM
#141
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From: metal tube operator
06-18-2012 | 05:30 PM
#142
The Brown Dot +1
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From: 777B
There are so many derogatory nicknames for Chatauqua (sp?), I assume because it is an odd-ish name in its own right (and not because it is a particularly bad outfit), but could we come up with a standardized derogatory nickname for them instead of the seemingly hundreds floating around.
IMO this is more important than posturing on the TA at this point.
IMO this is more important than posturing on the TA at this point.
06-18-2012 | 05:32 PM
#143
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
There are so many derogatory nicknames for Chatauqua (sp?), I assume because it is an odd-ish name in its own right (and not because it is a particularly bad outfit), but could we come up with a standardized derogatory nickname for them instead of the seemingly hundreds floating around.
IMO this is more important than posturing on the TA at this point.
IMO this is more important than posturing on the TA at this point.
06-18-2012 | 05:42 PM
#144
Back on TDY
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FTB, according to my rep, at the meeting Linda Puchala attended, she said that many pilot groups thought they were operating from a position of strength because of the inertia of congress and their apparent inability to act decisively. She said, put that thought out of your head. Legislation putting Delta pilots back to work has already been written and is waiting to put us back to work in the event the NMB path takes us that far.
That is not to say we can't effectively reduce revenue to the extent that it becomes cheaper for the company to pay us v. accept the reduced revenue and reduced profit on that revenue.
Bottom line, it isn't about striking. It is about controlling revenue.
That is not to say we can't effectively reduce revenue to the extent that it becomes cheaper for the company to pay us v. accept the reduced revenue and reduced profit on that revenue.
Bottom line, it isn't about striking. It is about controlling revenue.
Carl
06-18-2012 | 05:50 PM
#145
veut gagner à la loterie
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From: Light Chop
FTB, according to my rep, at the meeting Linda Puchala attended, she said that many pilot groups thought they were operating from a position of strength because of the inertia of congress and their apparent inability to act decisively. She said, put that thought out of your head. Legislation putting Delta pilots back to work has already been written and is waiting to put us back to work in the event the NMB path takes us that far.
That is not to say we can't effectively reduce revenue to the extent that it becomes cheaper for the company to pay us v. accept the reduced revenue and reduced profit on that revenue.
Bottom line, it isn't about striking. It is about controlling revenue.
That is not to say we can't effectively reduce revenue to the extent that it becomes cheaper for the company to pay us v. accept the reduced revenue and reduced profit on that revenue.
Bottom line, it isn't about striking. It is about controlling revenue.
06-18-2012 | 06:05 PM
#146
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It is amazing to realize that someone who is so ill-informed feels they have so much people need to hear on such a forum, but then again you're a pilot and a "Professional" at that.
06-18-2012 | 06:12 PM
#147
Da Hudge
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From: Poodle Whisperer
NW's post bankruptcy contract only required 1 captain and 3 FOs for flights over 12 hours. They were still configuring their staffing for that, though. That changeover stopped with the DL merger and going to our staffing methods (2 CA's and 2 FO's for over 12).
Pre-merger, DL flew to NRT, PVG, and ICN.
NW had a negligible presence in Central America, South America, and Africa (also only flew to a handful of European cities) pre-merger... what's your point? The merger completed the route network of both carriers, and now it is paying off greatly.
06-18-2012 | 06:21 PM
#148
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I don't remember a similar admonition for your buddy so I will take this one for what it is worth.
Thanks for the confirmation.
NW's post bankruptcy contract only required 1 captain and 3 FOs for flights over 12 hours. They were still configuring their staffing for that, though. That changeover stopped with the DL merger and going to our staffing methods (2 CA's and 2 FO's for over 12).
Pre-merger, DL flew to NRT, PVG, and ICN.
Pre-merger, DL flew to NRT, PVG, and ICN.
06-18-2012 | 06:28 PM
#149
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[QUOTE=padre2992;1214671]. Legislation putting Delta pilots back to work has already been written and is waiting to put us back to work in the event the NMB path takes us that far.
QUOTE]
Chances of that being a true statement probably approach zero.
That said, so what if true, Congress is just about as dysfunctional as it gets, just like some other organizations I can think of.
QUOTE]
Chances of that being a true statement probably approach zero.
That said, so what if true, Congress is just about as dysfunctional as it gets, just like some other organizations I can think of.
06-18-2012 | 06:41 PM
#150
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From: B757/767
Did NW fly >12 hour flights with 2 Captains prior to the merger? Did NW used to have Orient in the name because their very roots are in the Pacific where most 12+ hours flights are required? Was DL's presence in the Pacific negligible prior to the merger? You are as wrong about this as most things in your 9,000 I'll-informed posts. Tell your buddy to get a copy of the ltr. from CAL mgmnt regarding their DAL + $1 offer. In it they include caveats regarding implementation issues with many of the DAL PWA work rules et al.
Plus, I highly doubt you've read all 9000 of my posts. You probably should though. You might actually learn something.
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