Well, I guess so. My position is no ALPA, at any cost. I'd rather contribute $10,000 of my own money to an in- house. I just see ALPA as every bit as bad as any management team. They are a business that is in the business of getting dues. That's it.

So, if you want my vote, and the vote of people like me (there are more) drive for in-house. We may not be enough to swing it this time, but I have to vote my conscience. You vote your way, I'll vote mine, and let the chips fall where they may.

That's fine South. I hope you sent in a card or we don't get a chance for either.

Two things to take away from this thread:

1) If you support a CBA, fill out a card and send it in. A card at this stage is a vote for representation, not necessarily ALPA. If enough cards get sent in, then vote for who you want to represent you when the time comes, be it ALPA, Teamsters, in house, etc.

2) Some people should really not drink and post.....

Quick labor economics related question...............


Are you better compensated and protected than your ALPA peers?


I know darn well you're not!


Could you explain to me what benefit you are enjoying as a result of not being represented by ALPA?


I'm not seeing a single benefit. Maybe you could point out something I'm missing?


JJ

no CBA vs a CBA? 0. Or 0 that matter.

no CBA vs ALPA? Hmmmm... that's a trick question isn't it? :D see answer above.

/my last post here sorry, I hope whatever you guys do it works the way you hope.

Best post of this thread

sorry I didn't know anyone was reading yet and I changed the post on you.

You are so dishonest. If the 321 pays more, the pairings will be analyzed, bid and awarded in seniority order, just like 24 hour Aruba overnights. Are 24 hour Aruba overnights evenly distributed amongst the pilots? You are so dishonest and manipulating. And we are supposed to trust you?

As far as trying to improve pilots pay, you are trying to improve SOME pilots pay, while distracting energy, time and FOCUS away from improving our overall pay and benefits by pursuing an industry nonstandard pay rate for a minority of airbus pilots.

Though it may be in my individual and immediate best interest to vote yes to ALPA, I cannot in good conscience vote yes to them. I am philosophically opposed to them. Period. They exist merely as another level of manipulative politics whose primary goal is to get our dues. Secondary to that are the interests of their whole membership, not the interests of JetBlue. So long as the interests of JetBlue and their membership as a whole align, we won't see many problems, but eventually those interests may not align. Since we are the smaller group, we will be screwed for the "common good."

Sure, we might see some immediate gains, but I would rather have status quo than invite them on property. I'll wait for an in-house vote. Until then, I'm a solid and resounding NO.

Wow I certainly hope Southerner isn't the typical B6 pilot..... You really sound ignorant in your above post on ALPA. Go ahead and continue your conspiracy theory on ALPA. Like any union those who you put in place/power will dictate how good or bad your local association is......

How's your Aeromedical, Veterans Affairs department, Safety, ASAP, Government Affairs, oh yeah and insurance benefits?