Or go to Blue and end up at American.(or on the street)
I think we are now a big target.

Usair will retire roughly 50% of their pilots in the next 10 years. With a union the can negotiate better pay/benefits. They already have better retirement and insurance than JetBlue. More varied flying and real international flying. While the upgrade may be fast at JetBlue based on current retirements and expansion you may be on serve indefinitely. That is not a knock on the airline it's just the fact of a very young pilot group. The expansion is limited in that each new routes typically means reduced service in another city. For example DCA was heralded as growth when in reality is simply mean shifting flying from IAD.

Whether USair merges or not its still retiring massive amounts of pilots. 190 reserve for a career or potential 757,330 international?

I agree with most of this.
But did you look at the pay rates?
They can't even figure out what union they want over there.
So lets say the merger does not go do you think Parker is going
to give them a big raise?
If they merge good deal but remember before Parker was running around saying Airways couldn't make it without one.
If you want to move up super fast Airways will def give you that.

As for DCA we got the slots but we were short planes.
How often do DCA slots come up? We can grow IAD anytime we want.
If we want the business guy it's all DCA they hate IAD.
I would love to see more IAD but everyone has a hard time making that place work.

Keep in mind this is only today, for pilots hired 3 years ago. I do not believe that upgrade is one year away for me. It is still a sort of "false" upgrade as there are many who bypass for QOL. As the 4-6 year folks who bypassed realize that they can hold a CA line, they will start to upgrade and move the time frame back.

I think for anyone hired today to realistically plan on anything less than a ten year upgrade is just being optimistic. That is planning on ONLY planned growth and KNOWN attrition.

I believe it will be shorter than that but it simply cant be taken into the equation that its a fast upgrade here. When I was hired at my regional it was a less than a year upgrade....for the guys who had been there a little less than a year. It was closer to 3 for the guys who were hired after that point.

Good point

Don't go making sense about newhire upgrades on a pilot message board. You're preaching to the same people that look at the time enroute on the FMS in cruise at .79M and telling that arrival time to the passengers. Never mind the fact that you'll have to slow and descend.

Their pay rates are low and can only go up. From what I gather once they can put their ego's aside and merge the list AND operations the raises will then be negotiated.
As for what the CEO says I lump him in with Barger when he claims if a union is voted in he'll sell Jetblue. Thats just preying on the gullible which, mind you, we have quite a few.
My assertion with the DCA/IAD comparison is our "growth" is often attributed to new cities which usually means a reduction in frequency elsewhere. Also, as we announce new aircraft orders we typically don't announce lease backs. The rationale for that is lessors often change the terms and jetblue can decide to renew the lease. In short the net aircraft growth changes more frequently than the acronym used to sell us a new insurance/pay/benefits scheme.
As for the upgrades I remember being told to tell interview candidates back in 04'/05' that they would be Airbus captains in 2-3 years. Maybe its what the airline believed back then, who knows.

From the pvc today.

Talk to any PVC member and they will tell you flat out how bad we are getting screwed yet the pilot group just doesn't get it. They are honestly poking the bear with these emails. The airline has routinely threatened to fire them yet they press on in our best interest.

How does the pilot group respond...

So does this mean the PAR team will just email us our updated PEA?

Great! Ok well now that I am clear on that I have nothing to worry about!! I don't have to worry about signing anything so one less thing to do......... I hope u feel the sarcasm there. Unreal. :mad: