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benzoate 08-12-2013 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Climbto450 (Post 1461293)
Not everyone's perspective is the same. I have seen UAL hire until they layoff twice. In March 2008 I was almost a part of it. I can't leave a company that has never furloughed a pilot for that kind of hiring plan. Yes JB has a questionable future but so does this entire industry. Good luck to you as well.

I'm not arguing with your logic but keep in mind JetBlue hasn't furloughed because it has never needed to. It's a myth JetBlue would have gone bankrupt without the Lufthansa cash infusion. The 10K report proved that.

Climbto450 08-12-2013 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by benzoate (Post 1461315)
I'm not arguing with your logic but keep in mind JetBlue hasn't furloughed because it has never needed to. It's a myth JetBlue would have gone bankrupt without the Lufthansa cash infusion. The 10K report proved that.

Thanks for pointing that out. It was part of the thought process last Nov. when making the decision not to go to UAL.

Cheesus Chrust 08-14-2013 05:38 AM

Does anyone know if very low time guard guys with just enough hours for ATP's have a chance of landing a gig in the next few years with the expected "growth" and some guys jumping ship? I know that's hard to guess, but I'm looking at what's going in the regionals because that's probably the only places that will take low hour guys by the time I get the ATP, but it doesn't hurt to look around regardless.

CaptCoolHand 08-14-2013 09:20 AM

Apply everywhere! You have as good a chance as any. Use all your resources and every one you know.

jhaviator03 08-14-2013 10:00 PM

Here's a question for both sides of the isle. Would you go to US Airways from JetBlue? Why?/Why not? Add to the argument the potential with and without the AA merger.

It seems like the movement here is slow at best. I know there are a lot of ex-USAir FO's that are now senior CA's here at JB, it now seems the same movement issues they faced are being confronted by current JB junior FO's. What is JB doing to keep junior FO's around? I am not talking the pipe dream of A330's, or the planned expansion (subject to change) or the old banter of a CBA/Union (which has been turned down twice). What is being done to make this a career airline?

Flyby1206 08-14-2013 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by jhaviator03 (Post 1463276)
Here's a question for both sides of the isle. Would you go to US Airways from JetBlue? Why?/Why not? Add to the argument the potential with and without the AA merger.

It seems like the movement here is slow at best. I know there are a lot of ex-USAir FO's that are now senior CA's here at JB, it now seems the same movement issues they faced are being confronted by current JB junior FO's. What is JB doing to keep junior FO's around? I am not talking the pipe dream of A330's, or the planned expansion (subject to change) or the old banter of a CBA/Union (which has been turned down twice). What is being done to make this a career airline?

If you're in the bottom third of the JB list and under the age of 40 I would jump for US. The retirements at US are staggering.

Jetblue will always remain cheaper (read: lower paid) than the legacy carriers.

It is a gamble to go to US, but it is also a gamble to stay at JB.

pilotpayne 08-15-2013 02:34 AM

All airlines are a gamble.
Just a few days ago Airways guys thought they had it made now what? There is movement at JetBlue only Spirit is getting more planes than us. I have moved up pretty quick and its 3 years to a 190 RESERVE captain. Just remember the Airways guys were furloughed they didn't come here for movement.

pilotpayne 08-15-2013 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by jhaviator03 (Post 1463276)
Here's a question for both sides of the isle. Would you go to US Airways from JetBlue? Why?/Why not? Add to the argument the potential with and without the AA merger.

It seems like the movement here is slow at best. I know there are a lot of ex-USAir FO's that are now senior CA's here at JB, it now seems the same movement issues they faced are being confronted by current JB junior FO's. What is JB doing to keep junior FO's around? I am not talking the pipe dream of A330's, or the planned expansion (subject to change) or the old banter of a CBA/Union (which has been turned down twice). What is being done to make this a career airline?

Do you work for Blue?

Cruise 08-15-2013 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by blueballs (Post 1460088)
ALPA ALPA ALPA. Why is it ALPA pilots b*tch about ALPA so much the same as we do about the D R and every other airline complains about what they have. Try to pay attention to other carriers. Pilots are bailing from ALPA as fast as they can for a reason.
We need a cba? Yes. Representation? Yes. ALPA? I don't know.

ALPA isn't a nonprofit out to just help pilots. They do what's in their best interest which doesn't usually line up with what the majority of pilots best interest is

Not all ALPA pilots complain about ALPA. Those that know, understand the value provided.

Yes, here's a 'not complaining' ALPA pilot. :cool: Best of luck to you guys on your next drive.

Climbto450 08-15-2013 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by jhaviator03 (Post 1463276)
Here's a question for both sides of the isle. Would you go to US Airways from JetBlue? Why?/Why not? Add to the argument the potential with and without the AA merger.

It seems like the movement here is slow at best. I know there are a lot of ex-USAir FO's that are now senior CA's here at JB, it now seems the same movement issues they faced are being confronted by current JB junior FO's. What is JB doing to keep junior FO's around? I am not talking the pipe dream of A330's, or the planned expansion (subject to change) or the old banter of a CBA/Union (which has been turned down twice). What is being done to make this a career airline?

If the AA/UsAir merger goes thru (which it's not looking as good as it did last week with the government public opposing the merger as is) then UsAir will be a great way to get yourself a senority number at the worlds largest airline. If not JB currently is lookin at 3-5 years for upgrade to 190 captain and 5-7 for upgrade to 320 captain with the current aircraft orders and that doesn't include recalls leaving. Total compensation AA is far better than JB but UsAir isn't, you can roll the dice and go to USAIR and you may end up great you may also end up stuck at USAIR.


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