JetBlue has a bunch of company appointed committee members working on the 117 regs. ALPA has pro pilot members working on the same regs interpretation. Hopefully ALPAs interpretation will be used as compared to a bunch of ladder climbers.

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They are both ladder climbers dude. ALPA is just a business with a corporate structure and politics.

That being said, I'll never understand why people with no ambition to "move up" have such disdain for those who do. Mind your own business, and do your job. If you are happy as a line pilot, why hate on someone who wants to do more?

There is a difference when the ladder climbers sell out their fellow pilots or subordinate pilots to obtain their position.

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Agreed. That applies to any corporation though, and some seem to judge anyone who chooses to do things outside of flying regardless of their ethics.

Once again you speak without knowing what's going on. Shut up and listen.

At JetBlue, joining a committee to move into management became so rampant that language had to be incorporated into the 5 documents to prevent it. Why do you think our trips have declined to the rate they have. Why do we have section 14,15 language with the holes we do. Why do you think our disability and premium pay changed in the manner they did.

Again, you have no clue how things work at JetBlue.

Atleast ALPA members are elected. At JetBlue they are appointed.

ALPA ALPA ALPA. Why is it ALPA pilots b*tch about ALPA so much the same as we do about the D R and every other airline complains about what they have. Try to pay attention to other carriers. Pilots are bailing from ALPA as fast as they can for a reason.
We need a cba? Yes. Representation? Yes. ALPA? I don't know.

ALPA isn't a nonprofit out to just help pilots. They do what's in their best interest which doesn't usually line up with what the majority of pilots best interest is

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Look, BenzoBullsh!t, I know enough about politics, and enough about airlines in general to know that your attitude sucks.

By the way, not everyone at ALPA is elected, and certainly not to the committees they are appointed to once elected. If you think there isn't a bunch if back-stabbing politics at ALPA, the YOU are the one who needs to shut up and listen because YOU are the one who doesn't know anything.

I've been ALPA and seen the process. Is it perfect, no but with any union structure there are elections. Major committees who have appointments are appointed by the people we elect.

Since you know everything having been here 6 months you know that every major committee has members appointed by management and not by pilots. Those management appointed pilots are now in charge of every major pilot department at JetBlue. And did these appointees take care of the pilots on their steady climb? Since your six months has been filled with experience then you know the answer to that question in NO.

Pilots appointing pilots is one thing. Management appointing pilots to represent management interests on pilot committees is another.

But again, your extensive ALPA, union and JetBlue experience is clearly worth something.

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I've been reading your posts for long enough to know how full of crap you are.

Again, call your PVC rep to verify.

It's always easier to live in fantasy land.

But then that's the problem with pilots like you.