Boeing: The US pilot's enemy
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Boeing: The US pilot's enemy
We all know about the legalized prostitution of our White House and Congress. Since they'll always be addicted to the "clients" who pay them the most, the focus on politicians is a waste of time. If we are to stop foreign airlines from operating the US air transportation system, we have to stop trying to buy more politicians than they do. We can't cutoff the Middle East's financing of our politicians, but we can cutoff Boeing's financing of our politicians.
This is one issue where airline management and airline labor interests align. The Middle East airlines are buying Boeing aircraft under the overt proviso that they will be granted access to US markets as a result. If they get that access, it will likely eliminate a number of US airlines. The same US airlines that made Boeing the success they are today. Now Boeing is working to cut our collective throats to increase sales. US airline management and labor needs to join forces and state that all US airlines will boycott the purchase of Boeing aircraft unless Boeing agrees to stop their lavish spending on and arm twisting of politicians to allow foreign access to our markets.
Boeing doesn't care who actually runs our air transportation system because they've calculated they will still be the largest provider of aircraft to whoever ultimately survives. Management and labor need to show Boeing they've calculated wrong...and give them a huge public relations black eye in the process. Thoughts?
Carl
This is one issue where airline management and airline labor interests align. The Middle East airlines are buying Boeing aircraft under the overt proviso that they will be granted access to US markets as a result. If they get that access, it will likely eliminate a number of US airlines. The same US airlines that made Boeing the success they are today. Now Boeing is working to cut our collective throats to increase sales. US airline management and labor needs to join forces and state that all US airlines will boycott the purchase of Boeing aircraft unless Boeing agrees to stop their lavish spending on and arm twisting of politicians to allow foreign access to our markets.
Boeing doesn't care who actually runs our air transportation system because they've calculated they will still be the largest provider of aircraft to whoever ultimately survives. Management and labor need to show Boeing they've calculated wrong...and give them a huge public relations black eye in the process. Thoughts?
Carl
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They are like pimps setting up their ***** houses. The pay is phenomenal with some of them. For me, I do not want to live in the sandbox. Oil baby! If they didn't have it, they would be like sand flies swatted by camel tails. Of course, the Asian carriers are almost as good. If they didn't have western pilots, they would have a problem.
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Interesting to watch Emirates and Qatar openly worry that Boeing will outsource the 777X production, thus robbing them of their little political ploy.
Emirates Airlines has urged Boeing to build the 777X and its components in the US to avoid the issues that bedeviled the 787, according to The Wall Street Journal. (Subscription required.)
“Tim Clark, president of Emirates, said Boeing should assemble the 777X family in its own facilities to better manage the process and deliver the aircraft on time in 2020,” The WSJ wrote.
“‘All we said to [Boeing] was, ‘Please don’t do to 777X what you did to the [787],’” Mr. Clark said in an interview on the sidelines of the Dubai Air Show, adding that outsourcing the manufacture-and-build process to companies in Asia or Europe might mean Boeing loses quality and control of assembly. “Don’t do that to us,” he said,” The WSJ wrote.
“Qatar Airways Chief Executive Akbar Al Akbar similarly expressed a desire that Boeing assemble the 777X at a single U.S. facility. “Frankly, we would rather everything was built in one place, and I think Boeing from the 787 experience have learnt a lesson,” he said in an interview Tuesday,” reported The Journal.
There is broad consensus that Boeing’s Everett plant is the best place to build the 777X, given its experienced workforce, a mature factory and the continuing challenges of the Charleston 787 plant. But Boeing CEO Jim McNerney’s antipathy toward the IAM specifically and the Washington State business climate generally are “wild cards,” a source familiar with the dynamics tells us.
“Tim Clark, president of Emirates, said Boeing should assemble the 777X family in its own facilities to better manage the process and deliver the aircraft on time in 2020,” The WSJ wrote.
“‘All we said to [Boeing] was, ‘Please don’t do to 777X what you did to the [787],’” Mr. Clark said in an interview on the sidelines of the Dubai Air Show, adding that outsourcing the manufacture-and-build process to companies in Asia or Europe might mean Boeing loses quality and control of assembly. “Don’t do that to us,” he said,” The WSJ wrote.
“Qatar Airways Chief Executive Akbar Al Akbar similarly expressed a desire that Boeing assemble the 777X at a single U.S. facility. “Frankly, we would rather everything was built in one place, and I think Boeing from the 787 experience have learnt a lesson,” he said in an interview Tuesday,” reported The Journal.
There is broad consensus that Boeing’s Everett plant is the best place to build the 777X, given its experienced workforce, a mature factory and the continuing challenges of the Charleston 787 plant. But Boeing CEO Jim McNerney’s antipathy toward the IAM specifically and the Washington State business climate generally are “wild cards,” a source familiar with the dynamics tells us.
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We all know about the legalized prostitution of our White House and Congress. Since they'll always be addicted to the "clients" who pay them the most, the focus on politicians is a waste of time. If we are to stop foreign airlines from operating the US air transportation system, we have to stop trying to buy more politicians than they do. We can't cutoff the Middle East's financing of our politicians, but we can cutoff Boeing's financing of our politicians.
This is one issue where airline management and airline labor interests align. The Middle East airlines are buying Boeing aircraft under the overt proviso that they will be granted access to US markets as a result. If they get that access, it will likely eliminate a number of US airlines. The same US airlines that made Boeing the success they are today. Now Boeing is working to cut our collective throats to increase sales. US airline management and labor needs to join forces and state that all US airlines will boycott the purchase of Boeing aircraft unless Boeing agrees to stop their lavish spending on and arm twisting of politicians to allow foreign access to our markets.
Boeing doesn't care who actually runs our air transportation system because they've calculated they will still be the largest provider of aircraft to whoever ultimately survives. Management and labor need to show Boeing they've calculated wrong...and give them a huge public relations black eye in the process. Thoughts?
Carl
This is one issue where airline management and airline labor interests align. The Middle East airlines are buying Boeing aircraft under the overt proviso that they will be granted access to US markets as a result. If they get that access, it will likely eliminate a number of US airlines. The same US airlines that made Boeing the success they are today. Now Boeing is working to cut our collective throats to increase sales. US airline management and labor needs to join forces and state that all US airlines will boycott the purchase of Boeing aircraft unless Boeing agrees to stop their lavish spending on and arm twisting of politicians to allow foreign access to our markets.
Boeing doesn't care who actually runs our air transportation system because they've calculated they will still be the largest provider of aircraft to whoever ultimately survives. Management and labor need to show Boeing they've calculated wrong...and give them a huge public relations black eye in the process. Thoughts?
Carl
Yeah, that'll teach 'em
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