Std Deviation

I would acquire some additional skills. Nunchuku skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills... Airlines only want pilots who have great skills.

Moonwolf

50k a year as an f/o would be nice.

Cubdriver

Wright, I am not convinced there is a deep or genuine labor shortage at the regionals, let alone the majors. Evidence such as the following chart derived from FAA certificate data suggests there are lots of pilots out there. But, where is the question. There probably is a light shortage of those willing to work for the same low pilot wages making airlines think nobody is there, when actually there is a large shadow community of eligible US pilots who will no longer accept depressed wage structures.

RMWRIGHT

What does that have to do with keeping a plane straight and level?
I do like shooting my bow.

CBreezy

Your graph indicates a general negative (and acceleratingly negative) trend of commercial certificates. At 121 airlines alone over the next 15 years, they will lose tens of thousands of ATPs. There is also an undefined number of regional airline pilots who will be forced to retire in the next 15 years.

gloopy

Not sure what jobs you are applying for, but for most US airline jobs there is a lot in your "stats" that you probably shouldn't include unless asked. No one cares about resident status in another country, unless you are going to legally need it for that job, etc.

Many airlines are hiring a lot but the process is usually highly automated and takes a while. Its common to not get notices that your app was recieved and you will be considered etc. Usually you will hear nothing until you get an interview invite by phone or email.

Its also likely that if you have been applying non stop for a month, that you've applied to a lot of places which may view you as "over qualified" i.e. regional airlines especially the bottom tier ones. They know you'll leave quick, probably in training or just after.

Keep at it and network, go to job fairs and be patient. A month really isn't very long in this industry.

RMWRIGHT

Yes I agree, there are about 200,000 pilots with an atp or commercial with more than 1500 hours who could get a 1st class medical. There are 66,000 commercial jobs for pilots in the USA. So that's about 3 pilots for every job ! The reason why some places have a hard time to find pilots is simply a 40 year old commercial license holder isn't going to quit their 80k a year job to make 20k and never see their family.
There were 8300 new atp licenses issued last year and how many will be hired maybe 3000 or 4000 ?

I know I dont have much time, so I've tried to make up for it in training i.e. type ratings , flight engineer written etc anything to get noticed. I did all 4 ATP , only 350 pilots in the USA have all 4 ! I know I dont need it, I just wanted to demonstrate that I'm not a slacker and not trying to "just get by". So far nothing has worked.

gloopy

I'm all in favor of significantly increasing "regional" pay. Of course if that happened, there wouldn't be the need for regionals in the first place, which would be a good thing.

gloopy

Does that chart take into account foreign students that got licensed here but will return home and fly? Because we've been training a LOT of those lately relative to our own citizens, some of whom will seek employment overseas as well anyway.

Cubdriver

But it indicates a slow upward growth in ATPs as well as a steady supply over time. The proportion of ATPs to COMMs should continue to go in that direction due to the new ATP requirement for regional airline FOs.

Airlines will also eliminate jobs as aircraft get larger requiring less pilots to staff them.