SWA no longer requires 737 type rating
02-21-2015, 11:59 PM
#41
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It's worth mentioning that many SW pilots had the 737 type from previous employers (USAir, Vanguard, SkyKing, Pace, ProAir, Eastwind, the U.S. Air Force, etc)
While many - perhaps the majority - bought the type there are a significant percentage who were typed and flew the airplane elsewhere before interviewing at SW.
While many - perhaps the majority - bought the type there are a significant percentage who were typed and flew the airplane elsewhere before interviewing at SW.
02-22-2015, 05:52 AM
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Thunder speaks the truth. 2'nd yr at SWA and I have no trouble clearing 110-115tfp EVERY month. I saw classmates (who live in base) on 1'st year pay doing 120-130tfp regularly. My best month during first year was over 140tfp (17 days flying). Everybody has a "guy I know at xyz" carrier that makes $$$. The difference is that anyone at swa can do 120+ in almost any month if they want to. I expect to clear at least $140k total compensation this year which will work out to 15-16 days a month tops.
As far as they type going away, it's about time. I believe it will still be very competitive this year. There were around 4000 qualified applications for 400 spots last year. Around 3000 of those were typed. The difference this year is that out of those 4000, probably 1500-2000 got hired somewhere else. I talk to my buds hired at Delta regularly and have no regrets coming here.
As far as they type going away, it's about time. I believe it will still be very competitive this year. There were around 4000 qualified applications for 400 spots last year. Around 3000 of those were typed. The difference this year is that out of those 4000, probably 1500-2000 got hired somewhere else. I talk to my buds hired at Delta regularly and have no regrets coming here.
02-22-2015, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeF16
Next the airlines need to stop going to job fairs so pilot applicants stop getting raked over the coals there as well.
Should I not go? raked over the coals? really??
02-22-2015, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by john lennon
Isn't it true that SWA never had a 737 type rating course in their training program until recently, because most of the Airtran pilots had to be typed and trained? Maybe the requirement to have the rating prior to starting class was dropped because they now have the capability of issuing the type ratings themselves.
SWA bought Morris Air in Dec 1993. When the non-typed F/O's upgraded, they received a B737 type rating.
02-22-2015, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123
hmmm? Please someone explain this comment. I'm just at the point of going to job fairs because i've heard most airlines like this and I'm in terrible need of getting face time and networking.
Should I not go? raked over the coals? really??
Should I not go? raked over the coals? really??
02-22-2015, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MiLtoMajor123
hmmm? Please someone explain this comment. I'm just at the point of going to job fairs because i've heard most airlines like this and I'm in terrible need of getting face time and networking.
Should I not go? raked over the coals? really??
Should I not go? raked over the coals? really??
Slob?
Overweight?
Hygiene?
Interpersonal skills?
Motivated enough to make the effort?
Is what it is.
02-22-2015, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Stitches
Thunder speaks the truth. 2'nd yr at SWA and I have no trouble clearing 110-115tfp EVERY month. I saw classmates (who live in base) on 1'st year pay doing 120-130tfp regularly. My best month during first year was over 140tfp (17 days flying). Everybody has a "guy I know at xyz" carrier that makes $$$. The difference is that anyone at swa can do 120+ in almost any month if they want to. I expect to clear at least $140k total compensation this year which will work out to 15-16 days a month tops.
As far as they type going away, it's about time. I believe it will still be very competitive this year. There were around 4000 qualified applications for 400 spots last year. Around 3000 of those were typed. The difference this year is that out of those 4000, probably 1500-2000 got hired somewhere else. I talk to my buds hired at Delta regularly and have no regrets coming here.
As far as they type going away, it's about time. I believe it will still be very competitive this year. There were around 4000 qualified applications for 400 spots last year. Around 3000 of those were typed. The difference this year is that out of those 4000, probably 1500-2000 got hired somewhere else. I talk to my buds hired at Delta regularly and have no regrets coming here.
I am a probie on reserve and I cleared 130 this month, 35 if it at second year rates.
I generally don't try real hard and get around 100. If I pick up, 115-120. This month was exceptional. I flew a 3 day that paid 35 at second year rates.
I personally enjoy the flexibility. I can survive just fine on 90 trips, but it allows us to purchase some things that we thought would have to wait for first year pay to end.
02-22-2015, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by satpak77
Not sure if this is "shortage related" or more of a post-Herb shift in Human Resource thinking, to include legal counsel possibly getting involved regarding "requiring" types prior to starting class. They are hiring FO's, and the FAA does not require an FO to have a 737 type.
Similar to the old days when every airline had their own medical exam and physical requirements. The FAA stepped in and said, hey, FAA Class-1 is enough.
The FAA didn't "step in" and make the airlines get rid of (or make easier) pre-employment physicals. The airlines had to comply with the ADA, and changed hiring policy to comply with federal law.
Airlines can require a 4 year college degree, or a type rating, because there is no law that prohibits that requirement.
02-22-2015, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Stitches
Thunder speaks the truth. 2'nd yr at SWA and I have no trouble clearing 110-115tfp EVERY month. I saw classmates (who live in base) on 1'st year pay doing 120-130tfp regularly. My best month during first year was over 140tfp (17 days flying). Everybody has a "guy I know at xyz" carrier that makes $$$. The difference is that anyone at swa can do 120+ in almost any month if they want to. I expect to clear at least $140k total compensation this year which will work out to 15-16 days a month tops.
As far as they type going away, it's about time. I believe it will still be very competitive this year. There were around 4000 qualified applications for 400 spots last year. Around 3000 of those were typed. The difference this year is that out of those 4000, probably 1500-2000 got hired somewhere else. I talk to my buds hired at Delta regularly and have no regrets coming here.
As far as they type going away, it's about time. I believe it will still be very competitive this year. There were around 4000 qualified applications for 400 spots last year. Around 3000 of those were typed. The difference this year is that out of those 4000, probably 1500-2000 got hired somewhere else. I talk to my buds hired at Delta regularly and have no regrets coming here.
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