80ktsClamp

Sorry, the GIA stink is very real. I'll let you deal with the rest.

NoSidNoStar

Well if it is, all the ones hired directly from there into the big ones must have washed it really good before interviewing.
I can't make names, so I will just wait for them to come out and talk.
Yours is only your opinion, but it was not the opinion of whoever was doing the hiring.

captjns

Negative. Quite a few flowed int Contintal Maineline. A few from Gulfstram with green cards got on with CAL too.

Justdoinmyjob

HUGE difference between a 757 and a 717. 757 captain is somewhere around a mid 90s hire.

Captain Nemo

Lol, you are clueless sir just like the tool that started this thread.

Former GIA are at NWA/DAL, UAL/CAL AA, USAIR, AT/SWA, Spirit, Jetblue, UPS, Frontier, FedEx etc..

Quite a few directly hired into legacies and Nationals from GIA.

At one point or another in the 90's almost all regionals had PFT.

The only stink comes from all the sh!t you are shoveling.

NoSidNoStar

Here you go. Thank you for the feedback. Like I said, I wish I had done the GIA program.
Additionally, what is the difference between a training contract, a low paying job and PFT? Never mind. It's only a rhetorical question.
The fact remains that GIA PFT pilots got hired everywhere, and faster then the ones that went the CFI/135 route.

NoSidNoStar

I obviously stand corrected on the type. Nevertheless the guy got into DAL from GIA.

80ktsClamp

Ok, so a few got hired directly from GIA.

It doesn't change the fact that the GIA people have overall had a much tougher time getting on with the big carriers from 9E in particular. They are all that remain from my newhire class and many others.

Not to mention, every fatal airliner accident in the US in the last decade has involved at least one GIA grad. (FLG3701, CMR5191, CJC3407)

NoSidNoStar

A few got hired? They had such a huge turn over that they were hiring street captains, that means all of them were getting hired somewhere.

Tough time? From my personal experience, the GIA pilots got hired much faster than the one of us that took the CFII/135 route.
If they are not getting hired lately, which I don't know, it might be because turboprop time is not competitive.

As for the accidents, which have nothing to do with the original discussion, and does not prove any point, DAL1086 UPS1354 UPS06 AA331 FE80 just in the last 6 years had no GIA grad on board. Not all of them were fatal accidents, but it could have been easily going the other way.

You despise PFT, we got it, at some point I used to hate it too, I considered it cheating. Then I grew up and embraced reality.
The fact you hate it has no effect on what happened in the last 10-15 years. The GIA pilots went every were.

And to be objective, they must have been better pilots (flying 8 legs a day in a turbo prop, with no autopilot) then flight instructors with hundreds of of hours of traffic patterns or 135 pistons pilots, since none of the latter got hired directly into any major.

Captain Nemo

QUITE A FEW hired directly to a legacy and countless others indirectly hired at a National/LCC/Freight/Legacy you name it. The direct hires were a matter of timing and here we go with the accident bs.

For starters GIA in its entire existence had 0 accidents 0 fatalities.

ALL the pilots involved held FAA ISSUED pilot certificates from Commercial Pilot to ATP. All pilots involved PASSED type ratings or right seat check rides from their respective airline whether it was CMR, PNCL, COLGAN. More than one went to Riddle, what is your point?

I thought so. More sh!t shoveling. Give it a rest. Your argument does not hold water.