ALPAshutusdown

Breath! The sky is not falling.

Gunga Galunga

It will be a failure because there will not be an agreement this summer, regardless of Ackerman's penchant for working with the company. Spirit management can not be trusted.
DO NOT trust what they say look instead at their actions. They've chronically understaffed FAs, they have refused meltdown after meltdown to implement a scheduling department that can handle the growth of this company. They continue to battle with the FAs over a contract and gutted ramp and gate agents to save a few sheckles. Why do we think they'll treat us differently because our MEC chairman went rogue? Our work rules did not put Spirit in this mess. It will not get them out of this mess and it won't be rewarded in 6 weeks regardless of what nonsense is being pushed on the weekly podcast

Cruise

I agree. I'm not happy to hear of the relaxation of our work rules to bail out poor management (and that's what it is...no two ways about it). I am willing to see how it plays out. This is not a function of our work rules; instead it's poor planning, constant outsourcing, running every department as though it's still a 20 plane operation, etc....

But I do know this...my limits/ expectations on what's acceptable on our next TA just got significantly higher.

NK Bumble Bee

While I felt it was not a great time (4 months before section 6) for this mec overthrow, I have been trying to give it the benefit of the doubt that perhaps it would work out. Now I'm confident in my suspicions that JA is a spineless politician doing anything he can to advance himself to positions he did not earn has all but been confirmed! His proclaimed resume is riddled with leadership of failure, and now he is making agreements outside of the CBA (as I read here and subject to validation) without a vote from the LEC members on our behalf acting like it is a victory to give relief on two big contract sections with the idea that you can grieve it afterwards for remedy! With 600 million dollars in the bank there should be no loans fiscally, qol at work or away from it. They want help, PAY UP NOW! The implications that there is no future at this airline if they had to shut it down for a day is ludicrous! Didn't JetBlue do this last winter for a few days? I'm on third year pay close to upgrade and unfortunately I'm sad to say for the first time the reality that my future might need to be away from Spirit has hit like a freight train. The sad part is there is no reason that should have to be the case. All the ducks are in a row for the perfect negotiating environment, yet this guy is hand the keys over to our FRIENDS in management. I need to find a beer so when they call I'm unavailable...

Jamers

NK Bumble Bee

You called that one! His audio message just said he's at HDQ answering phones. I'm not saying we should be adversarial with the company, but there needs to be limits for our leadership!

Lemonade

Ackerman is an embarrassment. If he really thinks we will get a return on investment he is extremely naive. Why not just offer 200%?

I want to know which of our status reps voted for this.

Ackerman, get your ass out of SOC and back in the sim or you will be flying chandels and lazy eights soon.

flyguyniner11

They basically are offering JA for anyone wanting to work. I emailed JS this morning about a day trip tomorrow. It was on my schedule within 10 min with JA pay

Keizer Soze

And I emailed offering my help and was told to just stay on my originally scheduled trip tomorrow. Since I made myself available, I can only assume I am not suitable for some reason... Or perhaps I just haven't made the right friends in CS.

Anyway, back to my regular schedule.

northdakota

We are helping an organization that is failing due to it's own lack of investment. The MEC chair or any other pilot manning phones is an embarrasment to this pilot group. FYI for you newbies, this place has a meltdown every summer, we are not shutting the doors. At this point all we are doing is ENABLING business as usual. Reacting vs Proactively acting.