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Old 10-05-2015 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Andrew_VT
I've heard of a guy answering his phone while on final with a Fed in the jumpseat. Can't fix stupid.
Heard a story about an AA CP who was so p.o.ed about someone ahead of him taxiing in to DFW too slow that he whipped out his cell and called to find out who it was. Heard he got slammed for that by the Feds, too.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Cautionary tale for people to not be total effin' idiots as they are reaching for the brass ring?
I say no cautions. Let the idiots weed themselves out. Everyone else will be better off for it, and maybe it'll help someone out there move up a seniority number or two.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by encore
I say no cautions. Let the idiots weed themselves out. Everyone else will be better off for it, and maybe it'll help someone out there move up a seniority number or two.
Yup. Weeding out the slowest members of the herd.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
I'm sure that did not happen.
There is a rumor of someone doing it on the roll. Wasn't there so I don't know if true.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 08:44 AM
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Seems a good CRM question to ask would be,"captain answers cellphone and starts having conversation during taxi out at X (let's say JFK just to make it more accurate) what do you do FO?"
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Old 10-05-2015 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Heard a story about an AA CP who was so p.o.ed about someone ahead of him taxiing in to DFW too slow that he whipped out his cell and called to find out who it was. Heard he got slammed for that by the Feds, too.
True. Nice part of being in mgt is if you get grounded you still can go to work and get a pay check. So the checks and balance system is thrown out of whack.

That should be the CRM interview question - "you're flying with a senior mgt pilot and he starts yacking on his phone while taxiing. What you do????"
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Old 10-05-2015 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
Seems a good CRM question to ask would be,"captain answers cellphone and starts having conversation during taxi out at X (let's say JFK just to make it more accurate) what do you do FO?"
This. My second-to-last trip as an Embraer Captain I had a 4-leg turn with a brand-new, 26 year old guy. Sharp, good airman, couldn't stop talking about his girlfriend. After the last landing in BOS we are sitting in that no-man's land on M between 33L and 4L at Q... Tower clears us to cross after a landing SAAB and no response on the radio, look right and he's on the phone. I apologize to tower for the missed call and tell the little snot we aren't going anywhere till he gets his tail off the phone. Needless to say the cockpit door was closed during deplaning and the debrief was, lively shall we say.... Un-effing believable. And before you young guys get all butt-hurt, I'm aware that older dudes in the left seat have also been guilty....
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Old 10-05-2015 | 09:28 AM
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As a psyche grad my question is, "is being on the phone (everywhere) so ubiquitous now that it's considered normal," or, "is this just renegade behavior?" Don't know. Not just us. Train operators, nuclear power, etc. Had a repo in a van from JFK to EWR and the driver never put down his phone (1 hour 30 minutes). Non stop talking. Not a hands free phone.

I'm not anti phone. I wrote a piece and did road shows for the NBAA on managing vigilance, complacency, boredom, and distraction in which I argued - with data to back it up - that pilots should be allowed to use phones during certain segments outside of sterile. Not a popular opinion with FAA/NTSB.
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Old 10-05-2015 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
As a psyche grad my question is, "is being on the phone (everywhere) so ubiquitous now that it's considered normal," or, "is this just renegade behavior?" Don't know. Not just us. Train operators, nuclear power, etc. Had a repo in a van from JFK to EWR and the driver never put down his phone (1 hour 30 minutes). Non stop talking. Not a hands free phone.

I'm not anti phone. I wrote a piece and did road shows for the NBAA on managing vigilance, complacency, boredom, and distraction in which I argued - with data to back it up - that pilots should be allowed to use phones during certain segments outside of sterile. Not a popular opinion with FAA/NTSB.
There is a car commercial out there right now where they *fake* group lead takes everyone's cell phones and throws them in a chipper!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkvMJzl5XR4

Watch the reactions of the group starting about 1+00 to 1+30 to see how people feel about their phones now-a-days.
Is it any wonder that they can't keep their eyes/hands/minds off of them?
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Give up sex rather than be without an iPhone?Survey: 15% would rather give up sex than their iPhone - Fortune
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