A tale of two new hires. Let it be a warning.
10-05-2015, 08:04 AM
#11
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Joined APC: Jul 2011
Posts: 174
Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Cautionary tale for people to not be total effin' idiots as they are reaching for the brass ring?
10-05-2015, 08:24 AM
#12
You scratched my anchor
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,876
Originally Posted by encore
I say no cautions. Let the idiots weed themselves out. Everyone else will be better off for it, and maybe it'll help someone out there move up a seniority number or two.
10-05-2015, 08:44 AM
#14
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
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Seems a good CRM question to ask would be,"captain answers cellphone and starts having conversation during taxi out at X (let's say JFK just to make it more accurate) what do you do FO?"
10-05-2015, 09:15 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
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Originally Posted by Packrat
Heard a story about an AA CP who was so p.o.ed about someone ahead of him taxiing in to DFW too slow that he whipped out his cell and called to find out who it was. Heard he got slammed for that by the Feds, too.
That should be the CRM interview question - "you're flying with a senior mgt pilot and he starts yacking on his phone while taxiing. What you do????"
10-05-2015, 09:15 AM
#16
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
Seems a good CRM question to ask would be,"captain answers cellphone and starts having conversation during taxi out at X (let's say JFK just to make it more accurate) what do you do FO?"
10-05-2015, 09:28 AM
#17
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As a psyche grad my question is, "is being on the phone (everywhere) so ubiquitous now that it's considered normal," or, "is this just renegade behavior?" Don't know. Not just us. Train operators, nuclear power, etc. Had a repo in a van from JFK to EWR and the driver never put down his phone (1 hour 30 minutes). Non stop talking. Not a hands free phone.
I'm not anti phone. I wrote a piece and did road shows for the NBAA on managing vigilance, complacency, boredom, and distraction in which I argued - with data to back it up - that pilots should be allowed to use phones during certain segments outside of sterile. Not a popular opinion with FAA/NTSB.
I'm not anti phone. I wrote a piece and did road shows for the NBAA on managing vigilance, complacency, boredom, and distraction in which I argued - with data to back it up - that pilots should be allowed to use phones during certain segments outside of sterile. Not a popular opinion with FAA/NTSB.
10-05-2015, 09:44 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
As a psyche grad my question is, "is being on the phone (everywhere) so ubiquitous now that it's considered normal," or, "is this just renegade behavior?" Don't know. Not just us. Train operators, nuclear power, etc. Had a repo in a van from JFK to EWR and the driver never put down his phone (1 hour 30 minutes). Non stop talking. Not a hands free phone.
I'm not anti phone. I wrote a piece and did road shows for the NBAA on managing vigilance, complacency, boredom, and distraction in which I argued - with data to back it up - that pilots should be allowed to use phones during certain segments outside of sterile. Not a popular opinion with FAA/NTSB.
I'm not anti phone. I wrote a piece and did road shows for the NBAA on managing vigilance, complacency, boredom, and distraction in which I argued - with data to back it up - that pilots should be allowed to use phones during certain segments outside of sterile. Not a popular opinion with FAA/NTSB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkvMJzl5XR4
Watch the reactions of the group starting about 1+00 to 1+30 to see how people feel about their phones now-a-days.
Is it any wonder that they can't keep their eyes/hands/minds off of them?
10-05-2015, 09:47 AM
#19
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Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
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