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Window_Seat 12-17-2015 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by BiminiBendo (Post 2029340)
Hey guys, can you tell me exactly how much those regional FOs make?...... Just curious.

Don't forget that we have free smiles here guys!

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Lakeaffect 12-17-2015 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2029315)
I guess the good thing about this this thread is that managament reads APC and maybe they'll see how insulting their proposal was.

Whether or not they care is another thing




Spirit may currently appear to be a dead end job (subject to change!)but it's less of a dead end job than a regional. You have no decision to make
Until you are offered a class. Worst case, you get an AIRBUS type and see what our next contract brings. Nobody says you can't leave

I think "but it's better than my regional" is exactly what management wants to hear. keeping a nice stream of applications whilst paying rock bottom wages.

Cruise 12-17-2015 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029336)
*they're

You will find any way you can to justify your industry leading concessionary wages won't you?

4 days off between 6 day work blocks. Pretty sweet brah. And yes, your rates do take away the negotiating power legacy pilots have. Are they helping?


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029359)
A 220 passenger, A321 is a stepping stone now? That's a new low. You do realize you are actually taking passengers from higher paying legacy jobs right, same jobs you keep your apps updated for?
Now if you weren't doing it at such a discount it wouldn't be an issue (the argument being it's actually a legit business model rather than than depending on cheap labor that doesn't realize their own value subsidizing growth and maintaining profit margins).


Trolling DAL troll is trolling! So appreciative to have your insight here. Thanks!

Gunga Galunga 12-17-2015 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029359)
A 220 passenger, A321 is a stepping stone now? That's a new low. You do realize you are actually taking passengers from higher paying legacy jobs right, same jobs you keep your apps updated for?
Now if you weren't doing it at such a discount it wouldn't be an issue (the argument being it's actually a legit business model rather than than depending on cheap labor that doesn't realize their own value subsidizing growth and maintaining profit margins).

Oh great another double breasted sky God chimes in to whine about how Spirit, Emirates, regionals etc are taking your jobs away.

My question is simple to you. How do you come on here and troll when your E190 rates max at $139 an hour in THE LEFT SEAT? You're taking away E190 pax from JetBlue with those bottom feeding rates!!

You'll probably read this after you get done charging your golf cart after telling everyone in Peachtree City you're a Delta pilot. Until then $uck it

Window_Seat 12-17-2015 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga (Post 2029448)
Oh great another double breasted sky God chimes in to whine about how Spirit, Emirates, regionals etc are taking your jobs away.

My question is simple to you. How do you come on here and troll when your E190 rates max at $139 an hour in THE LEFT SEAT? You're taking away E190 pax from JetBlue with those bottom feeding rates!!

You'll probably read this after you get done charging your golf cart after telling everyone in Peachtree City you're a Delta pilot. Until then $uck it

That will change soon my friend. They will soon be better than your airbus rates.

Gunga Galunga 12-17-2015 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029456)
That will change soon my friend. They will soon be better than your airbus rates.

Don't hold your breath buddy. It'll be a while before Richard hands over $50/HR + to you guys. He has the cheapest 190 pilots in the industry now. Plus he needs to make the point that you can't vote down a contract and automatically get one better. It won't be the gift you make it out to be to save face here. By that time our Airbus rates will be just fine.

Until then- make sure you wear your hat.

Window_Seat 12-17-2015 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Cruise (Post 2029434)
Trolling DAL troll is trolling! So appreciative to have your insight here. Thanks!

Someone has to balance out the "amazing QOL" guys that come on here all the time and fight against fighting for a decent wage. You guys never have good arguments; just filler. again, another Spirit pilot with no insight whatsoever.

Packrat 12-17-2015 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029359)
A 220 passenger, A321 is a stepping stone now? That's a new low. You do realize you are actually taking passengers from higher paying legacy jobs right, same jobs you keep your apps updated for?

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029359)
Now if you weren't doing it at such a discount it wouldn't be an issue (the argument being it's actually a legit business model rather than than depending on cheap labor that doesn't realize their own value subsidizing growth and maintaining profit margins).

That Airbus SJS blinds a lot of guys to the harm they do to the entire profession. every load of passengers who elect the ULCCs means fewer pilots at the legacies. Some people just don't get the connection to their own detriment.

Why not just shoot yourself in the foot and get it over with?

DickBurns 12-17-2015 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2029460)
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!



That Airbus SJS blinds a lot of guys to the harm they do to the entire profession. every load of passengers who elect the ULCCs means fewer pilots at the legacies. Some people just don't get the connection.

You make it sound like you're not a pilot unless you're a legacy pilot. Yeah, we are taking your passengers. We are your competitors! Regional pilots flying YOUR passengers at crap rates is another story.

Gunga Galunga 12-17-2015 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029459)
Someone has to balance out the "amazing QOL" guys that come on here all the time and fight against fighting for a decent wage. You guys never have good arguments; just filler. again, another Spirit pilot with no insight whatsoever.

Make sure you fly that E190 for 139 and $95 an hour! Hypocrite


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