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Chimpy 12-17-2015 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Dr Pepper (Post 2029527)
Packrat I believe you fly for Alaska? If so you guys didnt exactly bang it out of the park with your recent contract. Talk about undercutting, Wow.
At least our contract is 5 years old what's your excuse?

Hahahahahha are you serious? I thought he flew for Delta?

ALASKA? The nerve.............

Window_Seat 12-17-2015 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga (Post 2029458)
Don't hold your breath buddy. It'll be a while before Richard hands over $50/HR + to you guys. He has the cheapest 190 pilots in the industry now. Plus he needs to make the point that you can't vote down a contract and automatically get one better. It won't be the gift you make it out to be to save face here. By that time our Airbus rates will be just fine.

Until then- make sure you wear your hat.

Are you serious? He said we couldn't have 190's unless we voted TA1 in. Guess what, we have 190's. TA2 is going to make him pay for them. It will be good for the company and good for us. The pilots actually have the leverage right now, too bad you guys can't see that. Whats happening to the regionals right now will creep into the LCC's as far as attrition goes.

And how much negotiating capital should they have negotiated for a CRJ900/EMB rates back in 2012 for an airplane they didn't have on property? You need to go to bizness skool.

Window_Seat 12-17-2015 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by DickBurns (Post 2029512)
Well, let's burn this place down and hand the keys to you guys! All hope is lost!

Listen, buddy. We're doing our best to get a leading contract. I'm sure we will get a much better deal soon enough. I'm confident that our guys won't ratify anything less. In the meantime, our job is to keep doing our job. Flying from major city to major city is what we do here. We aren't flying passengers on an rj that bought tickets on your website for **** wages. That is where your gripe needs to be.

I bet if you extrapolate the wages and apply them to a 220 seat A321, you are flying for ****ty wages and the tickets were sold on website.

DickBurns 12-17-2015 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029549)
I bet if you extrapolate the wages and apply them to a 220 seat A321, you are flying for ****ty wages and the tickets were sold on website.

Which is why we are not going to settle for a lousy deal.

Window_Seat 12-17-2015 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Gunga Galunga (Post 2029482)
Make sure you fly that E190 for 139 and $95 an hour! Hypocrite

Really? You are going to bring up rates for an aircraft that isn't on property yet? TA2 my friend, have some patience. Keep updating your app, maybe you will get your call. I can't wait to come back to this thread when TA comes and it tops out at $200 bucks an hour, like the 717 (+15% DC +23% PS). But yeah, I don't get 4 days off between 6 days work blocks.

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Window_Seat 12-17-2015 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by DickBurns (Post 2029552)
Which is why we are not going to settle for a lousy deal.

Good, there you go. Don't sell yourself short. That is the point of all my posts/trolling. Too many guys think its awesome cause Spirit is better than a regional. You are flying 220 seat airplanes with a 20% profit margin. Time to get paid!

Chimpy 12-17-2015 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Window_Seat (Post 2029560)
Good, there you go. Don't sell yourself short. That is the point of all my posts/trolling. Too many guys think its awesome cause Spirit is better than a regional. You are flying 220 seat airplanes with a 20% profit margin. Time to get paid!

This!

I come to work to get paid!

Time to pay up.

Also, let's not forget it was the SPIRIT pilots who last went on strike. I'm pretty confident we have a group here that is willing to fight if need be.

abbynormallaw 12-17-2015 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2029577)
This!

I come to work to get paid!

Time to pay up.

Also, let's not forget it was the SPIRIT pilots who last went on strike. I'm pretty confident we have a group here that is willing to fight if need be.

++++++1! Straight up!

Let's not make this a Delta vs Spirit vs Alaska vs JB..

Full circle from the OP, we need leverage! Having a problem filling classes might get us some.. Until then, it may be a long fight.. Hopefully a unified pilot group type fight!

SirHelios 12-17-2015 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by abbynormallaw (Post 2029603)
Hopefully a unified pilot group type fight!

This needs to start right now.

Packrat 12-17-2015 12:49 PM

I agree with these previous posters. You guys fly mainline jets on mainline routes. You NEED mainline pay. Period.


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